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  •  I agree. (2+ / 0-)
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    Avila, kurt

    This seems to be a very difficult notion for progressives and just plain human beings to understand.

    Our present policy towards undocumented workers is, plain and simple, enforcement only.

    Our tax dollars have gone to no-bid contracts to Halliburton to build detention centers.

    A small number of anti-immigrant groups (and not only anti-undocumented workers but anti-immigrant entirely) have been the architects of this enforcement only policy, where even local law enforcement is being coerced to do the job of the feds in raids and other actions which not only do not solve any kind of immigration problem, but create huge human rights abuses, including tearing apart families.

    Whatever one thinks of undocumented workers, there is no place in our country, imo, for this kind of treatment.  The enforcement-only activities we are now seeing are inherently inhumane, and one cannot be separated from the other.

    It's time to start having a real dialogue on immigration, not just the usual bigoted catch phrases we see all too often, even here at Daily Kos, and sadly, all too often from cowardly Dem leaders such as Rahm Emmanuel.

    If you are against Gitmo, then there's no reason you should be for this kind of bullshit going on in the US with undocumented workers.

    •  Not Enforcement-Only, Deportation-Only (3+ / 0-)
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      Avila, Nightprowlkitty, kurt

      If the federal government was really interested in enforcing our laws they'd approach migration in a more commonsensical manner.  Right now it's all about deportation.  Even the employers don't get penalized like migrants do.

      The U.S. "immigration debate" has lost sight of justice.

      by kyledeb on Tue May 13, 2008 at 10:45:19 AM PDT

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      •  Well ... (3+ / 0-)
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        Avila, kurt, watercarrier4diogenes

        ... I guess I see it as one and the same -- that "enforcement only" means deportation and rounding up folks even if they are here legally and letting the system sort it out.

        But yes, deportation only is what it boils down to.  The human rights abuses, though, happen beforehand,  and are a national disgrace, imo.

        •  It really comes down to messaging (2+ / 0-)
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          Avila, Nightprowlkitty

          Average U.S. citizens see enforcement only and they think: why is that bad?  When you explain the only policy the U.S. has now is rounding them up and sending them out, though, it becomes clear that it's nonsensical and impossible to deport 12 million people.  

          Unless of course you make it so miserable for them to live in the U.S. that they leave on their own.

          The U.S. "immigration debate" has lost sight of justice.

          by kyledeb on Tue May 13, 2008 at 11:02:20 AM PDT

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          •  Sure. (1+ / 0-)
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            It does come down to messaging.

            I wonder, though, if "deportation" would mean anything more to folks either.

            We've both read the crap posted here at Daily Kos by anti-migrant folks.  They aren't the least bit bothered by the word "deportation."

            So I tend to use the phrase "enforcement-only," though I agree with you that's not all that great either!


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