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  •  Re: Methodist steeplejacking (1+ / 0-)
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    Don't know if you'll see this, but I hope you do.  

    In addition to the "nondenominational" churches in my area, I'm afraid the local Methodist church has some definite involvement with these folks.  I didn't go long enough to be entirely sure what they were preaching exactly, and i didn't get the feeling that it was explicit Joel's Army stuff, but it sure wasn't the Methodist church I grew up in.  At the time (way before I knew about any of this stuff) I remarked to my husband that the Methodist church felt more like a "Baptist" church to me.  Not sure if this is just a legit regional variation among Methodist churches, or if this is the influence of the local fundies, or what.  

    •  Yup, aware of it. (1+ / 0-)
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      Methodist churches--especially AME Methodist, but increasingly UMC Methodist as well--have always been a historically heavy target for steeplejacking by the Assemblies of God in particular.

      (The Assemblies, and pentecostalism in general, is in fact a descendant of the Holiness Movement within Methodist and Baptist churches--in fact, the Assemblies can trace its lineage most definitively from ex-Methodists who were expelled from the denomination for "not testing the fruits of the spirit" with their love of glossolalia.  (Methodist groups do believe in "tongues", but typically require someone to be translating live-time to verify it is in fact a gift of God; it's not like the theatrics in Assemblies churches.)  Partly because the Assemblies was founded by people kicked out of Methodist and Baptist churches for heresy, they've always very heavily targeted those denominations in particular.)

      The FGBMFI is known to have targeted Methodist churches, and there is probably a lot of infiltration of Joel's Army stuff through promotion of the "Alpha Course" (originating from a Vineyard-steeplejacked COE church) and even the Institute for Religion and Democracy.

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