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  •  Yeah, but, really... (3+ / 0-) often did he go on away missions?

    The standard away team was Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and disposable crew member who died early on to highlight for the audience how dangerous the away mission was.

    •  Sulu was often given the Bridge (3+ / 0-)

      in those situations

      "lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed"

      by yuriwho on Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:00:51 AM PDT

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      •  Scott was next in line... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...for bridge command if Kirk and Spock were off ship.

        I think Sulu was below Scott.  As a result, I rarely recall him having control of the bridge.

        •  Dear God (6+ / 0-)

          The fact that I know these things is a shining example as to why I can never get a date.

          •  When Scotty also went on missions (3+ / 0-)

            the Bridge was Sulu's domain

            "lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed"

            by yuriwho on Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:05:04 AM PDT

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          •  I might also add that Gene Roddenbury (3+ / 0-)

            was a visionary.....a multi-racial crew even though the subtext was often racially was a step forward

            "lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed"

            by yuriwho on Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:07:25 AM PDT

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            •  It was about as progressive as possible... (2+ / 0-)
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              ...for the 1960s.

              Hell, even though sexism was rampant throughout the series, they at least had women crewmen, and, in one episode, even a female lawyer with the Star Fleet JAG office.

              I personally think that TOS should get the Battlestar Galactica treatment: A complete remake and reboot for the Star Trek continuity.  You could update the shows concepts for the 21st century, and even remake some of the older episodes that were really good (City on the Edge of Forever, etc..).

            •  TOS had the 1st interracial kiss on network TV (2+ / 0-)

              the episode was called Plato's Stepchildren and even though Kirk was clearly being "forced" to kiss Uhura and the kiss itself is very wooden (their lips barely touch and they don't even pucker) several southern affiliates refused to show the episode.

              StarTrek fanlore says that in the original script Spock was supposed to kiss Uhura and Kirk was supposed to kiss Nurse Chapel (the underlying irony being that Chapel was in love with Spock), and evidently William "horndog" Shatner said "if anyone is going to kiss Nichelle Nichols it's going to be me!"

              I know WAY too much about this stuff!  One of many reasons why I'm still single!

              Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.
              Give to Populista's Obamathon 2.0!

              by TrueBlueMajority on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:50:58 AM PDT

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              •  Have you read any of the autobiographies? (0+ / 0-)

                Most members of the original cast have written and published their autobiographies, and they're actually, for the most part, very well-written (Shatner is an exception, sadly). Both Nichelle Nichols and George Takei talk about that interracial-kiss scene. Apparently they did several takes after the one that got aired; the director was hoping to get a shot that would sort of  hide the fact that Bill and Nichelle were actually kissing, but Bill made a point of spoiling every take (crossing his eyes in one, sticking out his tongue in another) until they didn't have any more time to shoot it the way the director wanted it shot. On the last take, Bill apparently took the overacting that he's so famous for even farther than usual and hissed: "I. WON'T. KISS. YOU. I. WON'T. KISS. YOU!!!" over and over in his ham-handed too-long-of-a-pause-between-each-word way, and then the shoot was over. So they had to use the "real kiss" take because it was the only one that wasn't spoiled.

                Despite everything bad I've heard about Bill Shatner - and I've heard a lot that's bad - I have to say that what he did that day was a great thing for the civil rights movement. For that, I admire him.

                The truth shall make you free - but first it shall piss you off.

                by Killer of Sacred Cows on Thu May 22, 2008 at 08:38:50 AM PDT

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