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  •  Sen Durbin knew the soldier who was (15+ / 0-)

    "the ad" and said he and Sen. Obama helped him to get his disability payments. Then he became a puppet for McCain. . . .So you think that 527 interviewed IL soldiers until they found one that was paid handsomely for doing this ad?

    Graham and Liberman are the worst of the worst.

    •  But ... (3+ / 0-)
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      remember that Durbin said the solider had suffered a serious head injury.

      So perhaps they found the one they truly felt they could take advantage of best, which is even lower than the lowest point to which I thought they would sink.

      Oh, the irony of his being the very soldier Durbin and Obama worked so hard to help.  And to top it all off, Graham not only ignored Durbin's comments but instead repeated the VFF talking points a second time!

      Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. - Albert Einstein (-6.5/-7.33)

      by pidge not midge on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:46:18 PM PDT

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      •  Be careful with that line of reasoning (14+ / 0-)

        Remember Rush Limbaugh's "phony soldier" crap?

        Limbaugh's Phony Soldier:

        On his radio show Tuesday, Limbaugh attacked an honest-to-goodness, wounded-in-action, Bronze Star- and Purple Heart-decorated Iraq war veteran by equating him with a suicide bomber who can't possibly think for himself. After Iraq veteran Brian McGough appeared in a VoteVets ad pushing back against Limbaugh's "phony soldiers" smear, Limbaugh responded by telling his listeners that McGough was simply being used.

        "You know, this is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said, then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media in a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into," Limbaugh said. "This man will always be a hero to this country with everyone. Whoever pumped him full of these lies about what I said and embarrassed him with this ad has betrayed him. They're not hurting me, they're betraying this soldier. Now, unless he actually believes what he's saying, in which case it's just so unfortunate and sad when the truth of what I said is right out there to be learned."

        McGough's retort: "I stood in the sand, snow, dirt, mud and dust of both Afghanistan and Iraq. I spent over a week on a side of a mountain in Afghanistan during Operation Anaconda. I received The Bronze Star medal for my actions during that battle. I crossed the border into Iraq with the first wave of the 101st Airborne. I sustained an open head injury on the streets of Mosul after a vehicle borne IED exploded next to the vehicle I was riding in. I have seen the aftermath of a real suicide bomber. I had loved ones who died in the 9/11 attacks. I have friends and colleagues who returned from the war in body bags. How dare you call someone like me a phony soldier and a suicide bomber?"

        Nobody knows why this soldier appeared in the anti-Obama ad.  Claims about his head injuries being the case or enough money to be paid off being the case.... they're both accusations without evidence to support and amount to the same thing that Rush did to this soldier:

        "Real" - VoteVets.org TV Ad Responding to Rush Limbaugh

        After that ad came out, a lot of commenters at right wing sites smeared him on the basis of his head injury being the reason for his delusional support of the Democrats and betrayal of his fellow servicemembers.

        I would suggest we stay away from those type of assertions entirely.   This guy in the ad is there for some reason, but to put forth that it's because of his head injury or because of payment is something that there are simply not facts to back up at all.

        Let's not become Rush Limbaugh and his ilk, please.

        •  Your points are all well taken (2+ / 0-)
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          but I do not for one minute believe that the solider was not exploited in some way.  With Durbin and Obama working diligently to help him receive disability payments, it seems unlikely that he would turn on Obama to the extreme of appearing in an anti-Obama ad.  This fact is what makes it different from similar examples.

          The whole thing reeks and reeks badly.  We may never know the real reasons for the solider making the decision to appear in the ad.  My comments, however, did not reflect on his validity nor his service.  They were intended to reflect upon the desperation of the Republicans and their PACs.

          Of course the real issue here is the coordination of communications by the parties involved.  It is obvious, it is blatant, and it should be prosecuted.

          Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. - Albert Einstein (-6.5/-7.33)

          by pidge not midge on Tue May 27, 2008 at 07:14:04 AM PDT

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