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  •  I still don't know which is worse. (1+ / 0-)
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    They're both horrible for different reasons.

    The "macaca" thing was just outright racism. Hillary and Bill, despite their Jesse Jackson statements and obvious race-baiting, aren't actually racists.

    The "RFK" thing was beyond the pale though. She can argue as she might, that it was taken out of context, but really how many times can this woman's inflammatory statments be "taken out of context"?

    I think "macaca" just barely edges "RFK" out, because it was a dark look inside a racist man's soul. The "RFK" thing was a desperate tactic on Clinton's part raising fears about her candidate that appealed to people JUST like George Allen that spectacularly backfired.

    Both were reprehensible though.

    "The next time Hillary opens her mouth, she's going to sound like Elroy Jetson in comparison." ~ Some anonymous 'Wonkette' talk-backer.

    by OReillysNightmare on Tue May 27, 2008 at 05:32:55 AM PDT

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    •  My "better" wasn't comparing Felix with Hillz. (1+ / 0-)
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      Rather, I was saying that it was better that Hillz macaca'd herself than that someone else did it to her.

      So long as men die, Liberty will never perish. -- Charlie Chaplin, "The Great Dictator"

      by khereva on Tue May 27, 2008 at 05:34:33 AM PDT

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    •  We don't know that (0+ / 0-)

      Read this long article in the New Yorker from the 90's about their rise to power and then get back to me.  It seems to me that they could care less about Black people.

      http://www.newyorker.com/...

    •  Trying to hang on (0+ / 0-)

      After thinking about that RFK comment last week, and looking at it in the context of a lot of her campaign's more unfortunate statements, it seems to me that she's still dog-whistling.  So many of these comments seem to be directed at people in her age group who remember the terrible violence around the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement from the 60's and 70's.  When she makes statements that point out her advantage with "working class whites" she's talking to older, graying liberals who probably have a lot more fear about race being an impenetrable barrier in presidential politics than younger voter do.  She's saying, "See?  It's dangerous to give him the nomination because there are too many racist voters still."  The RFK thing (and the fact that she's managed to bring it up a few times) also seems aimed at baby boomers, and it's also designed to scare: "Remember what happened to our inspirational, change-oriented leaders when we were younger?  Well it could happen again, and then what would we do?"

      I think she's still trying to hang onto these older female voters that have been her stalwart supporters.  She must know that she's not going to get the nomination, but perhaps she believes that if  she still holds this particular block of Democratic voters in her pocket that she can use that as leverage for concession negotiations.

      "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Ghandi

      by Triscula on Tue May 27, 2008 at 10:20:14 AM PDT

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