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  •  not denying it (1+ / 0-)
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    figurefive

    When the Mike Stark incident came out I learned it then, came across it on the "internets."  Actually was accidental.

    As for my Expose Hannity Express, everything I have on him is legit.

    But let's get back to your original point which is a fair one.

    At what point does one fight fire with fire?

    What you might be saying to yourself is this:

    Dave KNOWS all this information but doesn't release it publicly.  

    As for releasing the info on Hannity I have not done that publicly either although I have the right to in my view considering that they (via the Detestable One) divulged my real name which of course led to my address and then a bunch of vicious dirt was smeared about me in Freeper land. (And no I'm not regurgitating it, it didn't go far.)

    I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

    by davefromqueens on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:39:54 PM PDT

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    •  How could you? (1+ / 0-)
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      Deny it, that is.

      At what point does one fight fire with fire?

      I don't believe in fighting fire with fire;  you only end up with a bigger fire and there are no guarantees that only the 'right' people will get burned.  One does not effectively highlight the thuggish nature and underlying threat contained in this sort of outing by doing it to them.  When you do, the emphasis shifts away from thuggish tactics as both sides are guilty and becomes a question of who started it/deserved it.  That's not the discussion  I want, dave.

      Dave KNOWS all this information but doesn't release it publicly.

      What bothers me is not that you have the information but that you brag about it as if acquiring O'Really and Hannity's personal info is some sort of accomplishment.  As I said earlier, it's difficult to imagine a legitimate use for that info.

      considering that they (via the Detestable One) divulged my real name

      Maybe.  At best it's a maybe, but even if you have some sort of 'right' to release it you don't have the right to drag this website into your feud by revealing it here.  This is a place for grownups not temper tantrums.  Pursue your legal remedies and leave it at that.

      a bunch of vicious dirt was smeared about me in Freeper land.

      I'm sorry to hear that but it appears that you laid the groundwork for this yourself.  BTW, I don't know your secret identity and haven't read any of the smears.  They could be exploring Jupiter on RW radio and I would be blissfully unaware.

      •  response (0+ / 0-)

        and I'll remain civil as you did in yours.

        1.  I don't claim knowing 3 addresses that took a collective 40 seconds to attain, and 2 of which were simply found by reading articles for my knowledge with no intent to find said addresses, is somehow some great accomplishment.  My knowledge of such has been mischaracterized for weeks by some.
        1.  The question of where that line is drawn, what tactics to use or not use, when to fight fire with fire (and when not to) is something you and I have different ethical and moral lines.  For the record I do not approve of using the tactics you mention on people for no reason but applying conservatism to conservatives (my phrase) or Hammurabi's Code X3 (Don't throw the first punch but if a conservative punches you, pound him 3x as hard minimum) are to me options that should be available and options I will not intellectually preclude myself from using.

        I think it would be a great debate to have at something like the Great American Thinkoff and it would be a terrifc topic to argue about but I just think we have to agree to disagree.  I haven't walked your shoes in life nor you mine.  Perhaps my experiences in life have shown me that there are times where one must fight back against the bully on the bully's level. (The last thing Rupert Murdoch wants is a 100 "left wingers" stalking his apt but if Murdoch or Robert Johnson or Bill Oh understand that that is what they'll get if they pull these shenanigans, it is probably the only thing that will get them to stop.

        See if Jesse Watters or Bill Oh stalk me like that or release my address, I may very well be outside their homes with a camcorder filming them for my news stories and I'll have plenty of friends.

        I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

        by davefromqueens on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:32:22 AM PDT

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        •  Indeed (2+ / 0-)
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          MajorFlaw, tecampbell

          The question of where that line is drawn, what tactics to use or not use, when to fight fire with fire (and when not to) is something you and I have different ethical and moral lines.

          The difference is, MajorFlaw seems to know where the moral and ethical line is.

          You clearly don't.

          "I drank what"? -Socrates

          by BraveheartDC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:17:30 AM PDT

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          •  what you blockquoted (0+ / 0-)

            would be a great area for a civil debate in some other forum.

            Where is that moral and ethical line?

            Perhaps I know where it is and you and MF think it is somewhere else.  Who's right?  That's subjective.

            I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

            by davefromqueens on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:23:45 AM PDT

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