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  •  Things that don't help. (4+ / 0-)
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    lost, jeepdad, navajo, Curufinwe

    I have been a Clinton supporter (since 1992, in fact).  I am not disappointed today.  I think whe ran a good campaign, despite some ealry blunders.  I don't want anything to do with the folds on MyDD or BTD or whatever.  This is my site for political discussion.  I wanted her to run the race all the way to the finish and she has.  Clinton had a lot of people working hard for her in the final states and she wanted to honor them.  Her stunning upset in SD last night is evidence enough of the kind of support she can build.  A campaign like that can not stop on a dime, so it will take a little while.

    Meanwhile, here is what I think Obama supporters can do to continue to help us move over their side.  Stop criticizing Hillary Clinton.  It does not matter whether the criticism is deserved, or whether it feels good.  It is just not helpful.  Be a gracious winner even if you think some on the other side are not gracious losers.

    Here is the worst part of this particular diary.

    Speaking for me only, the one thing I've always found disheartening about the Hillary campaign is their tremendous sense of entitlement. This was her time, after all. How dare that young, arrogant Obama come along and disrupt the show!  

    You saw this.  I never did, and I doubt I ever will, so stop trying to convince me of it.  It sounds too much like that Pfleger nonsense.

    Accept the amazing quality of your candidate and his campaign.  Back in October, I thought that running the Clinton campaign the as "clear fron-runner" campaign was the right choice, tactically.  It has nothing to do with some sense of entitlement.  Quit psychoanalyzing her.  I think it would have been very hard at that point to predict the strength of the Obama phenomenon.  It took everybody by suprise and it should have.  99 times out of 100 the campaign she ran would have been successful.  It was a sound campaign strategy.  Only in retrospect, in light of Obama's amazing performance does it look unwise.

    Oh yeah, and just stop looking at those other sites.  I am have been a Clinton supporter and I don't look at them

    So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

    by illinifan17 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:10 AM PDT

    •  I'll accept that critique. Thanks for (0+ / 0-)

      the honest and thoughtful comment.

      Don't Legitimize Fox News.
      "Democrats have the heart to care."

      by jeepdad on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:07:50 AM PDT

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    •  Good comment (0+ / 0-)

      Especially the last tow lines.  

      The St. Louis Orange gang is having a picnic on June 21. You should come!

      by maryb2004 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:09:16 AM PDT

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    •  Great Advice (0+ / 0-)

      Oh yeah, and just stop looking at those other sites.

      I visited TalkLeft several times in the past few weeks.  No more. Not worth it.

      And I will never go near Hillaryis44.

      Trust none of what you hear. And less of what you see. This is what will be. ~ Bruce Springsteen

      by lost on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:14:16 AM PDT

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    •  Really wish I could rec this 100 times (0+ / 0-)

      I've been sort of befuddled at the MSM reaction to last night, as well as the reaction here.  Nobody "stepped on" Obama's night.  An African-American cinched the Presidential nomination of one of the major parties.

      Let me say that again:  an African-American cinched the Presidential nomination of one of the major parties.

      Speaking as someone who hasn't supported Obama, that's fucking amazing.  Nothing could step on that, unless people let it (like, say, MSMers dying to foment discord in the Democratic Party for the same reason they like to do that every four years - because they support the other side).  Hillary gave her most dedicated supporters a night to feel good for their accomplishments (which are considerable).  Hillary also said to the Democratic leadership "I am a force to be reckoned with in this party, irrespective of my husband."  Discussions will take place behind closed doors, she'll get a prize convention spot, a few people close to her will get some roles within the party, and she'll possibly begin to move up in Senate leadership when the new Senate takes office (probably the biggest reason Pelosi's been so hostile to Clinton through this - she's a political hardballer herself, and doesn't want a competing locus of power within the Congress, and our milquetoast Senate Majority Leader certainly doesn't qualify), Clinton will withdraw and endorse Obama in terms every bit as effusive as anyone could wish for, Obama will (as Dukakis did in 1988, despite Jesse Jackson doing almost exactly what Hillary's doing) pick his own Vice Presidential nominee, and all will be well.  95+% of Hillary Clinton's supporters will back Obama.  A few dead-enders will find some site to hang out on, and Obama's supporters will probably, alas, forget the cardinal rule:  "On the internet, nobody knows there are seven of you."  But the party will unify, and Obama will be the next President.

      Folks, please be patient.  You can be certain that our nominee, coming from the Chicago political scene, knows what the score is, isn't stewing about it, and he's going to do what needs to be done, as will Clinton.  All the rest is kabuki.

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