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  •  I honor his service (5+ / 0-)

    but he is not above exaggerating it or using it for personal  and political benefit. It's his right to do so, but it doesn't make him a saint.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:20:49 PM PDT

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    •  Please (0+ / 0-)

      McCain very seldom gets specific about his military service.  He should do more of it.  Maybe he will during the upcoming months because it would be a good comparison: War Hero vs. Community Activist (Socialist)

      •  he used it to get himself elected (1+ / 0-)
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        again, within his right, but don't be a fool. "Socialist" as a scary bogeyman went out with Nixon. Obama's a patriotic mid-stream moderate American.

        As Tom Davis, the smartest of the republican strategists noted, trying to run against Obama as a liberal, let alone a socialist (the only one in Congress is Bernie Sanders) is doomed to failure.

        But knock yourself out. You only marginalize the GOP even more.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:37:16 PM PDT

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        •  Sad thing is (0+ / 0-)

          you are probably right.  Obama is a Socialist which today is a "mid-stream moderate American."  I don't think Republicans will go down that road of applying the Socialist tag but they will try and paint him into a corner as a "liberal".

          •  Jesus was a socialist...they should watch their (0+ / 0-)

            step!  McCain 'used' his vet experience to further his career in Navy, to get his 1st wife a job since her auto accident so he wouldnt feel guilty about leaving her & 3 kids when he ran around with wife #2.  She got a good paying Gov. job in DC.
            He throws around all the 'flag-waving' patriotic words till they lose all meaning.
            Who has ever benefited from his Senate years but him?  
            Obama, & others like him, are to looked up to with the greatest respect because he actually helped people who needed it.  I'm not from the south side of Chicago, but I know what it's like to lose a job, lose a home, go thru Labor dispute & be black-listed, have a Judge in cahoots with the Company & end up with 600,000 shares of their stock in his will.....sometimes you just need someone in your corner....
            Now, when our country is in dire need from one corner to the next....we need Obama.

            Where people fear the government there is tyrany: "Where the government fears the people, you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson

            by ROADRUNNER DEM on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:55:01 PM PDT

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            •  I guess that is where we differ. (0+ / 0-)

              First, Obama has benefited from his political standing.    Nobody makes it through Chicago politics, or anywhere else for that matter, without a little or a lot of give and take.  Also, it is absurd to say that nobody has benefited from McCain's years in the Senate except for himself.

              Politicians and the government are never in your corner.  They may mean well but the beaurocratic beast will always take on a life of its own. I have always felt a little mixed in this area because I do believe that we need a safety net to help people in need to get them back on their feet.  However, I believe Obama will go way beyond that line.

              •  re: McCain & AZ (0+ / 0-)

                Also, it is absurd to say that nobody has benefited from McCain's years in the Senate except for himself.

                McCain likes to brag that he doesnt take any earmarks for his state....if I lived in AZ I would feel slighted:

                McCain Falsely Claims He Has ‘Never Asked For A Single Earmark Or Pork Barrel Project’ For His State»
                In tonight’s Fox News GOP presidential forum, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) attempted to argue that if elected president, he will eliminate "wasteful spending." As evidence, he claimed that he has never asked for an earmark for his state of Arizona:

                And I’m proud to tell you, Chris, in 24 years as a member of Congress, I have never asked for nor received a single earmark or pork barrel project for my state and I guarantee you I’ll veto those bills. I’ll ask for the line item veto and I’ll veto them and I’ll make the authors of them famous.

                McCains AZ earmarks
                It's really not true, though:

                McCain’s claim is false. In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to "lean against the measure." The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.

                In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
                create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. As Roll Call reported in 2003, this project violated McCain’s own anti-pork rhetoric:

                The only problem is the project to acquire more land near the base was not requested by President Bush or fully authorized by the Senate Armed Services Committee - two of McCain’s criteria for identifying so-called ‘pork.

                Also, his ties to Phil Gramm show that banking law changes during Gramm's term have benefited some, though I guess if you're rich, it's not considered an earmark.   John McCain and "Foreclosure Phil" Gramm

                It's late --I'm tired, but the jist of what I was thinking is:  Obama helped individuals, McCain only helped the big guys, the crooks, all the while pretending to be watching over our tax dollars.  Rumor has it that Phil Gramm is on McCain's list to be sec of Treasury....run for the hills!

                Where people fear the government there is tyrany: "Where the government fears the people, you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson

                by ROADRUNNER DEM on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:06:41 PM PDT

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