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    •  Tithing to church vs giving alms to the poor (10+ / 0-)

      The "Joshua Generation Project" is a timely idea! Many believers of all denominations, and even of no denominations have a concern for social justice and do not believe in the concept of seeking God's blessings for themselves while neglecting the concepts of reaching out to the poor, the homeless, the dispossessed, the sick, the downtrodden as Jesus taught.

      Too often preachers ask for money to enlarge their own lifestyle and ministry. Jesus himself indicated that the direction of giving should be towards people who cannot pay you back. Instead, more and more we see religious organizations where the "blessings" flow upward.

      Jesus taught giving as a general principle rather than tying it strictly to a church body because the needs are so great. That is why that although I still give to some religious organizations, I've redirected the majority of my giving towards direct aid to the poor in the country where I come from.

      •  Not only that, (8+ / 0-)

        the Apostle Paul didn't take money from the people he preached to -- he usually set up shop as a tent-maker (his profession before he got into the preaching biz) when he'd hit a new town, and be more or less self supporting (I don't think he was amiss to sharing a home or a meal now and then). And if you look at some of the early monks and nuns, like Francis of Assisi, they pretty much went around with nothing, plus you have monasteries and convents that are self-supporting by producing products such as wine or other consumer goods, or who provide services such as education.

        "Old soldiers never die -- they get young soldiers killed." -- Bill Maher

        by Cali Scribe on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 05:57:21 AM PDT

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        •  AIDS work is important (6+ / 0-)

          Do Not Fear to Hope
          is run by the Franciscan Friars and sisters of the Atonement.

          These are the types of things young Catholics, and other Christians can  be inspired by.  

          Anthropologists for human diversity; opposing McCain perversity

          by Denise Oliver Velez on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 06:18:21 AM PDT

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          •  New wave of enlightenment in the church, I think (1+ / 0-)
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            People are not satisfied to have so much while others have so little. They're not content to go somewhere and feel good for a few hours while the world deteriorates around them.

            When I see how committed a lot of young people are to developing a servant's heart, and even go overseas to do it, it really humbles me. Many kids would welcome the opportunity to spend 2-4 weeks overseas to bring hope somewhere, but their trip usually has to be self-funded.

    •  Yet another stellar idea (6+ / 0-)

      to increase the Democratic base.  Its great that he can apply what he learned on the streets of Chicago to a national audience.

      This is going to be good.

      "...hope can find its way back to the darkest of corners" -- Barack Obama, May 6, 2008

      by SnowItch on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 06:20:25 AM PDT

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    •  Bush received 78 percent... (3+ / 0-)
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      of the evangelical vote in 2004.

      Evangelicals make up about 23 percent of the electorate. If 40% of evangelicals conclude that Obama's values (though not necessarily all of his policies) are largely in tune with their values, then McCain could well end up losing 4 to 5 percent of the electorate (and about 10 percent of Bush's old constituency) to Obama in November's election.

      In a close election that 4 to 5 percent of the electorate could be a back-breaker for the GOP's chances.

      And if Obama can even approach 50% of the evangelical vote, the election could well turn into a blowout for the Democrats, especially if large numbers of evangelical voters stay home rather than than take part in grassroots GOTV efforts or vote for McCain.

      It is certainly conceivable that progressives and an important percentage of evangelicals could unite politically by stressing:

      (1) a common interest in public and private service rather than personal greed

      (2) a common interest in serving the poor and the sick

      (3) a common interest in social justice for all, not just the ultra-wealthy and privileged

      (4) a genuine regard and respect for others, including those who look or think differently

      (5) a revulsion to torture

      (6) and, perhaps most importantly, a realization that genuine respect for life requires opposition to the needless war in Iraq, a war launched on false, deceptive premises.

      Progressives and evangelicals would have to agree at the starting gate, just as some families do at the dinner table, that certain intractable subjects must remain matters of personal conscience and off-the-table within such an alliance. The two key examples are probably abortion/choice and the issue of equal civil rights for gays and lesbians. Evangelicals will need to weigh whether these two issues would be deal-breakers, for the Democratic Party as a whole is unlikely to retreat on either one. That said, no one ever gets everything he wants from any political alliance, and many evangelicals may well conclude that they get an 80-20 split in their favor of their core values from the Democrats, and a 20-80 split against their core values from John McCain's Republicans.

      All the same progressives and many evangelicals may very well conclude that they have much more in common than they previously realized. This intuition by Obama may be one of the major reorganizing principles of the upcoming campaign as he seeks to transform the electorate and forge a new Democratic coalition.

    •  Obama can win states like Miss if he can get 25% (1+ / 0-)
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      of the white vote, and I think he gets it, by going after moderate Evangelicals, that are digruntled with Bush and the economy.

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