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  •  Last Night I Remarked About th Rarity of Bold (2+ / 0-)
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    clear-speaking Democrats.

    My wife replied that only two existed, and they both had the same last name.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 01:55:34 AM PDT

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    •  Don't forget about the Carters (0+ / 0-)

      And we'll be right back...

      by kovie on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:01:58 AM PDT

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    •  Do tell... (0+ / 0-)

      but are they still alive?

      Everybody eats, nobody hits.

      by upperleftedge on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:31:13 AM PDT

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      •  Clear Speaking Democrats? (0+ / 0-)

        In 1968 I was an excited campaigner for Eugene McCarthy who ran in the primaries on the claims that Democratic President Johnson and VP Hubert Humphrey had misled America into the war in Vietnam. McCarthy seemed the clear-speaking Democrat I wanted so badly to believe in. But after losing the Democratic nomination he turned around and endorses the war-maker Humphrey.

        Since then I've been a lot slower to take either Republican or Democratic politicians at their word. A great example was in '04 when John Kerry tried to run as a candidate who could be anti-war AND  criticize Bush for not having sense to send "enough troops" to Iraq.

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