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  •  It IS that bad (0+ / 0-)

    They can siphon up ALL of your electronic communications, find something illegal, make broad, unsubstantiated public statements about the plot you were "involved in" and lock you up indefinitely without ever allowing you access to an attorney.
    You may not see the elimination of our Constitutional rights as unacceptable, but many of us do. How bad are you willing to allow things to get before you agree with me? Don't wait until it's too late. This has to be stopped NOW!

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world.

    by cybersaur on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 09:19:46 AM PDT

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    •  This is what I'm talking about! (0+ / 0-)

      Where did I say it was "acceptable" -- though I'm not quite sure the series of events you describe could happen with this bill (remember, we just got habeas back, yay, and I still think my American citizenship would help me even under the Bushies, but I take your basic underlying point about the real-world importance of this stuff). With some of you people if I'm not ready to man the barricades, I'm a traitor to the cause. How about a little less Madame Defarge and a little more Thomas Jefferson, okay?

      In any case, I'm stridently opposed to the bill but I'm also saying it's just one part of a larger battle and going ballistic isn't going to help anyone or anything. Sheesh.

      Forward to Yesterday -- Reactionary aesthetics and liberal politics (in that order)

      by LABobsterofAnaheim on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 11:46:02 AM PDT

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