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  •  Ahhh. Thank you for that lovely nostalgic moment (1+ / 0-)
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    the ultimate slam of Dan Quayle.

    The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

    by grover on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 12:24:52 AM PDT

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    •  best slam ever (0+ / 0-)

      Quayle never recovered his reputation, and was finished as a politician.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 05:31:18 AM PDT

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      •  & yet, (0+ / 0-)

        Bush41 easily won the election after Dukakis' photo op in the tank, Willie Horton & Dukakis being annihilated in the debates etc., cause as a rule, v-p's don't mean jack.

        Same kind of smugness the dems had after losing the 2000 & 2004 general elections to a complete & total idiot! & I might add I've been noticing increasing smugness by dems at this site & others & the election is (5) mos. away, an eternity in politics.

        & indeed, even though Obama is young, inexperienced & an African-American, with his money advantage & after (8) years of the worst president in history & McCain being a god awful candidate his own damn self & the rep party in total disarray ~ really the dem party should just fold its tent & go home! ... getting back on topic as to Obama's 15 pt. lead in this obvious outlier poll.

        On the one hand, Obama winning the presidency will be truly historic, on the other hand, if McCain wins the election it will be historic as well, as I watch the dems once again, screw the pooch ...

        'nuf said

        When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to pause & reflect! ~ Mark Twain

        by shiloh on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:31:25 AM PDT

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        •  right (0+ / 0-)

          smugness. I love it. if smugness means not being scared of your own shadow and noting that your party has the lead even if it's not a lock (when your party, in fact, has the lead), then we are all smug.

          Must be because the Dems, y'know, won in 2006.

          People don't vote for VP, so the analogy to the pres. race doesn't match.

          In any case, Obama's lead is ~5-7.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:44:34 AM PDT

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          •  Most political experts believe the (0+ / 0-)

            Mark Foley scandal breaking just before the mid-terms had a big impact on the '06 elections, bush's & the rep's incompetence & corruption aside.

            As many have repeatedly pointed out here & elsewhere, elections can turn on a dime.

            & no, smugness means smugness, which is especially sad when after the 2000 & 2004 elections, the dems had no reason to be smug.

            When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to pause & reflect! ~ Mark Twain

            by shiloh on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:21:14 AM PDT

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            •  most political experts think (0+ / 0-)

              this is an absolutely disastrous year for the GOP, way worse than 2006, and that includes GOP analysts from Novak to Gingrich to Tom Davis.

              And if smug is really smug, I'd think FISA eliminated it as a concern (if it ever existed). I see the term thrown about every time someone posts a lead for Obama, so i don;t know automatically what the word means.

              "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

              by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:20:49 AM PDT

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              •  I agree w/those predictions, & if the dems (0+ / 0-)

                do well, they should be very happy, but not smug.

                A little historical perspective, LBJ & the dems won in a landslide in '64 & the pundits wondered if the reps could ever recover. hmm, it took the reps (4) years to recover w/nixon winning in '68. Of course a few things happened in between, the Civil Rights acts giving the South to the reps for several generations & the Vietnam War escalated, RFK assassinated & riots at the Chicago convention, etc.

                & then nixon won in a landslide in '72 & again, the pundits wondered if the dems could ever recover. After Watergate, Carter barely won in '76.

                & so it goes, politics & corruption has been around since the beginning of time & will stay with us 'til the end of time ...

                One can hope Obama will be as great as Jefferson, Lincoln & FDR, but I will be happy if he is a very good president, who doesn't compromise his priciples depending on whether polls are up or down.

                When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to pause & reflect! ~ Mark Twain

                by shiloh on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 05:51:53 PM PDT

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                •  I, as well (0+ / 0-)

                  not long before we have a chance to see...

                  "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

                  by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 06:58:08 PM PDT

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