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  •  Ouch... (0+ / 0-)

    Just asking questions. I'm not a big fan of jumping to conclusions.
    The general theme of my comments is discouraging people from asking for more government to solve the problems caused by ... the government.
    And yes, minimum wage does cause (among other things like price inflation (which also hurts the poor the most)) unemployment, mainly among the poor. Doctors do not lose their jobs when the minimum wage is raised...

    •  Question (0+ / 0-)

      And yes, minimum wage does cause ... unemployment, mainly among the poor.

      Do you consider the recent rise in unemployment among the young to be related to the impending rise in the minimum wage?

      •  Hard to say... (0+ / 0-)

        There are many problems with data collection.
        BUT, teens are usually the least-skilled workers, and as such are more likely to lose their job than someone who has been in the work force for a while.
        If a worker produces $X worth of service for an employer, and the minimum wage is raised to $X+1, they are no longer profitable to the employer and will probably be fired. But there is no way for data collectors to know what "X" is. "X" is somewhat subjective and even flexible.
        But the fact that people buy less of something (labor too) as the price rises is NOT hypothetical and can not be disproved. There are no exceptions.

        •  Two kinds of immigration (0+ / 0-)

          Boston Globe October 16, 2006

          The overall effects of new immigrant inflows from 2000 to 2005 on American labor markets are unprecedented. Between 2000 and 2005, the total number of employed workers 16 and older in the nation increased by 4.8 million. Over the same time period, the number of new immigrants entering the nation and finding work was estimated to be 4.13 million. This means that new immigrants accounted for 86 percent of the total gain in employment that the nation experienced over the past five years. Our analysis suggests that close to two-thirds of these new immigrant arrivals were unauthorized. Among males, all of the net growth in employment between 2000 and 2005 was attributable to new immigrants. This extraordinary finding casts serious doubt on the common contention that new immigrants simply take jobs that Americans do not want. Can anyone seriously claim that, of the nearly 2.8 million new jobs obtained by male immigrants, not one would have been taken by an American male?

          Worse still, the impact of this displacement of native-born workers and established immigrants was concentrated among young people. The total number of native-born people ages 16 to 34 has increased over the past five years, while the number of these young people who reported being employed has fallen by 4.2 million. At the same time, the number of new immigrants ages 16 to 34 who found work between 2000 and 2005 increased by 2.7 million.

          Available evidence shows that there has been a high rate of displacement of younger, native-born male workers and younger women without four-year college degrees by newer immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants. Our own statistical analysis of native-born adults under 25 revealed that higher inflows of new immigrant workers in their state of residence hurt their ability to find jobs. The negative effects were larger for young men than for women, for young adults with no postsecondary schooling, and for native-born black and Hispanic males. Not surprisingly, we found that young, native-born men with fewer years of schooling were the most adversely affected by new immigrant inflows.

          Andrew M. Sum is the director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University. Paul E. Harrington is associate director.

          <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

          by superscalar on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:51:15 PM PDT

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          •  This story highlights the problems with... (0+ / 0-)

            data collection. Many factors effect employment. That's why sound theory is crucial. Without correct theory, there is no way to separate correlation from causation.

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