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  •  Re: Saddam Captured; What's Next? (3.00)
    Yeah, yeah, yeah.  You are right.  If you look at the details, this is supposed to be immaterial.  No one will look at the details.  

    Dean was against the war + W captured Saddam =
    Dean's numbers are going to take a beating + W's are going to go up.

    Maybe it's good that it happened early in the primaries cycle.  But I think now Dean's coronation is over.  There will be primaries that actually matter.

    For the record, I'm a rabid Deaniac.

    Put your money where your mouth is: Give $100 to the Democratic presidential nominee (whoever that may be.)

    by aleand on Sun Dec 14, 2003 at 12:02:23 PM PST

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    •  Re: Saddam Captured; What's Next? (3.00)
      I don't think this is a bad thing for Dean at all, in terms of the intense focus on Dean now going away.

      In fact, I was getting a little exhausted by the events of the past two weeks.  There was a growing sense of "too far, too fast" evolving almost by the hour.  

      Now the Dean campaign can regroup.  Their gains over the past weeks have been real, and I think they'll stay real.  It will only energize the Deaniacs to work harder in Iowa and New Hampshire.  

      They were always thinking about what Napoleon would do. Unfortunately for their plans the rebels would be thinking about something else. --Ulysses Grant

      by NYCO on Sun Dec 14, 2003 at 12:07:42 PM PST

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    •  Re: Saddam Captured; What's Next? (none)
      I don't agree at all. My opinion of the war is unchanged by Saddam's capture. It was a terrible idea, our diplomacy leading up to the war was inept and dishonest, and our post war reconctruction efforts have been incompetent.

      None of that has changed, and I don't think that most people's opinions about the war are going to change.

      In theory, Saddam's capture could make it easier to reduce the violence and improve the lives of people in Iraq. Given the Administration's track record, however, I expect them to screw this up just like they've screwed up everything else.

      •  Re: Saddam Captured; What's Next? (none)
        Agree.  Agree. Preaching to the choir.

        Except the "most people" part.  Most kossers?  Sure.  People who get their news from the local nightlies, I dunno.

        Not to sound pretentious (which I guess I do).  Hope I'm wrong.

        Put your money where your mouth is: Give $100 to the Democratic presidential nominee (whoever that may be.)

        by aleand on Sun Dec 14, 2003 at 03:20:50 PM PST

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    •  Re: Saddam Captured; What's Next? (none)
      Dean was against the war + W captured Saddam =
      Dean's numbers are going to take a beating + W's are going to go up.

      If Saddam's capture means that we're done in Iraq and we can restore all of the intelligence and military personell to Afghanistan where the real threat existed instead of wasting those resources on a threat we created in destabilizing Iraq, then maybe this will be a long-term gain for W's numbers. Barring a return to the real war on terrorism, this is a short-term bump for Bush.

      Capturing Saddam is fine and dandy, but we're no safer from terrorist attack now than we were the day that Cheney and Rumsfeld decided to pull the majority of our most important resources out of Afghanistan. We may even be less safe on the whole. Capturing Saddam makes a recent danger we created somewhat less dangerous, but does little to defend us against the terrorist threats that were thrust into our collective face starting September 11, 2001.


       My candidate kisses babies. Your candidate is a mass murderer.

      by asa on Sun Dec 14, 2003 at 05:13:23 PM PST

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    •  Re: Saddam Captured; What's Next? (none)
      I'm willing to trust the bushies to continue to screw up the occupation, and unfortunately, I suspect that employment isn't going to be going up much in the next six to nine months. It is still riding on little more than housing refinancing and low interest rates. There simply isn't enough money to sustain consumer spending after Christmas.

      Although I wouldn't be surprised to find that the Bushies are finagling the econolmic figures, either.

      We really are living in interesting times.

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