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  •  Rep Barr effect can help IMHO (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Barr could stop Obama from 50% (0+ / 0-)

      because if it looks like McCain is gonna lose and the election is decided, many people will look to Barr. While we may think of Barr as only an ultra conservative, don't forget, people probably have forgotten the impeachment thing, and he is against the war, against the PATRIOT Act, and may appeal to those who think he's an outsider. He could actually begin to take from Obama because of those stances. He is also now for drug legalization. And if he gets enough, he could make the result look like 1996, where he wins by a large margin, but gets enough votes to keep him under 50%. I wonder how Kos, who always lambasts Clinton for getting under 50 would feel or say. The RW would hit us for sure.

      •  What sour grapes. (0+ / 0-)

        The primary is over, Lanny. Stop stinking up this thread.

        I am not gay. I have never been gay.

        by MJJLWolf on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 08:49:19 PM PDT

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        •  I'm merely pointing out a possible scenario (0+ / 0-)

          which is entirely plausible. Its entirely possible people look at Barr by september when they figure Obama's win is already decided, and he starts to do well, enough to keep Obama to 49 percent, McCain maybe 40, Barr 8. Barr is more like Obama than McCain on the big issues like Iraq, Patiot Act, civil liberties, and is more liberal than both on drugs. Its likely he gets some Obama vote if Obama's up way ahead.

          Also, I'm just sick of people like Kos, who uses GOP talking points about getting "over 50%" of the vote. Clinton would have easily got over it were it not for Ross Perot in 1996 and 1992. The right always likes to say "Clinton never got over 50%" and I will not stand for trashing of the only two term Democratic President since FDR.

      •  Uh, Barr takes all his votes from McCain (0+ / 0-)

        not Obama.  Look at the LA Times poll out this week.  Sorry, I know you are obsessed with the Perot robbed Clinton of 50% of the vote, but this time around it is clear where Barr's votes come from.  Given that he takes nothing from Obama and all from McCain, unless you think McCain would get over 50% absent Barr there is no way in hell Barr keeps Obama below 50%.  And oh by the way nader's effect on Obama's vote is negligble.

        •  thats because right now, its extremely early (0+ / 0-)

          because people haven't looked Barr other than the conservatives who already know him. When Barr is introduced to a larger audience, then its likely he does get more from the other side.

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