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  •  how do you get to 4 more years of Repub rule? (5+ / 0-)

    Please, I'd really like to know.  You repeat it over and over again, and provide absolutely no evidence to support that statement.

    •  You know the drill. (0+ / 0-)

      If you get your way and embarass Obama, the R's will say Obama is a "hostage" to the "radical left".  This will scare the moderate votes he needs to win.

      You know this is exactly what will happen.  It's been done before - they've jumped up and down and screamed "liberal" to scare voters and it's worked.

      The winner of this election will have the supporters who have the strongest stomach.  

      •  um, have you looked at the polls? (6+ / 0-)

        The majority agree with us.  Mr. Popularity is at something like 23%.  Look what happened in 2006; the Democrats stood up the Republican fear card and won.  While I'll be the first to admit that it's hard to tell since then that much has changed, I really think you need to change your mantra just a tad.

        Let's imagine for a moment that Obama came out strongly against the new bill.  Don't you think he's perfectly capable of making a powerful argument about upholding the Constitution and not turning America into a police state?

        •  I think it won't fit into a convenient soundbite. (0+ / 0-)

          FISA can be spun with the words "national security" - the argument against it is beyond a lot of the media's attention span.

          You're ethically right that Obama should go against it.  The problem is that I can see the R's twisting this against him and it going down badly in states like MO and MT which are within reach.  I think he sees it too.

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