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  •  If/When this FISA legislation passes, (1+ / 0-)
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    truong son traveler

    will it be possible to undo it in the next congress and pursue an investigation to its logical conclusion?

    "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein

    by Citizen Earth on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 03:39:10 PM PDT

    •  That seems like a pipe dream (2+ / 0-)
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      truong son traveler, RenMin

      It passed the House with a 2/3rds majority, and will probably pass the Senate by some similar margin. Obama said he supports it.

      "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." - George W Bush

      by jfern on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 03:51:52 PM PDT

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    •  Even if it passes, the investigations will go on. (2+ / 0-)
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      alkatt, user1000

      Furthermore, the pre 9/11 spying is not, NOT , NOT immune to civil litigation and even the spying covered under immunity, which occured between 9/11/01 and 1/27/01 has to meet several requirements, the satisfaction of which is determined by individual courts.

      Maybe, just maybe, that would be the strategy Obama et. al. have seen in this compromise.

      Not to interrupt the daily FISA bashing around these parts.

      •  statutes of limitations will kick in (2+ / 0-)
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        truong son traveler, crose

        before any of this see another court date. It's now or never at this point.

        President Theodore Roosevelt,"No man can take part in the torture of a human being without having his own moral nature permanently lowered."

        by SmileySam on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 04:06:25 PM PDT

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        •  The litigation is already going on now. n/t (0+ / 0-)
          •  not after the immunity passes. (1+ / 0-)
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            Oh... and congress is NOT investigating this issue.

            That is one of the points of the civil lawsuits- it would be the only way for us, John Q. Public, can find out exactly what they were doing with all that information they were illegally collecting.

            Unfortunately, it appears that Congress is more interested in covering their own asses then investigating Bush.

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