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  •  If we all bail (0+ / 0-)

    and sabotage our side, then I guess we won't win.

    Then FISA and spying on us will be permanent under permanent GOP rule. Things can get worse.

    If we are viewed as flakes who bail at the first disagreement, what kind of influence would you expect?  

    However, if we are viewed as core and loyal supporters who dissent in a constructive way, we'll be more influential.

    FWIW, I think the message has been sent loud and clear. I think we need to put pressure on this in 2009 to launch a full investigation.  

    •  Oh, absolutely (0+ / 0-)

      the pressure will continue. Immunity can't be revoked, but the rest of this crappy bill can be repealed. Along with the MCA.

      "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams.

      by Joan McCarter on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 06:36:53 PM PDT

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