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  •  Blame it on the students (2+ / 0-)
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    VClib, Norbrook

    I am  a  UC student and this problem is created by teary-eyed idealist students.

    On on end they rail about raises in tuitions and university fees

    AND  then they demand that workers should be paid more. You can't have it both ways.

      Ask students  to pay more in tuition and fees if you want a living wage.  As your parents told  you, there isn't a money tree.

    The upcoming book by yours truly. How the New Deal Democratic Party was Hijacked by Environmentalists, Ethnocentrists, and Peaceniks

    by leftyhammer on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:06:13 PM PDT

    •  Blame it on the UC Executives (7+ / 0-)

      Lefty - although I appreciate your perspective I hardly think that students are to blame. UC executives have, time and again, found money for HUGE salary increases for themselves ($924,642 for the new President alone), loans for homes for themselves, new buildings, a $300,000 rental home for the new president... the list goes on and on. The problem is UC's misplaced priorities... UC students AND workers are getting the short end of the stick.

      •  yup, UC is a corporation (3+ / 0-)

        with corporate priorities and huge waste at the top tier.  The students are victims, too.  Many of them are probably putting themselves into future poverty to pay off loans for an education that should mostly be free.  

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        by smellybeast on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:21:11 PM PDT

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      •  1 million? (0+ / 0-)

        How much is the total value of the money the UC  workers want.   I bet it's in the millions.

        Where do you think this money will come from?  It has to come from student fees  and tuition raises.

        The upcoming book by yours truly. How the New Deal Democratic Party was Hijacked by Environmentalists, Ethnocentrists, and Peaceniks

        by leftyhammer on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:26:14 PM PDT

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      •  I think (0+ / 0-)

        the totals of administrative salaries above $60,000/year,$70,000/year,..., $200,000/year as percentages of tuition revenue per institution and system-wide would be interesting information for students and others.

      •  And, tax payers... (2+ / 0-)
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        Tax payers are funding the UCs to educate students if the students who are supposed to be educated by the UCs are not being educated because they cannot pay for it, then the tax payers are getting shafted.  If the UCs are paying for things not related to the educational process then the tax payers are getting shafted.

    •  I'm a student at Cal (1+ / 0-)
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      and I heartily disagree with you. The whole purpose of the University of California is to provide higher education to the students of California, and it was supposed to be free. How much do we pay now? Around $11,000 for tuition, and another 10,000-14,000 living expenses.

      This lies squarely at the feet of UC Regents and our legislators, and ESPECIALLY our dear Governator, who would all rather students pay higher tuition than instituting a sales tax on yachts, while simultaneously promising "no new taxes".

      Sure, you can blame the students, who have absolutely no sway compared to labor interests and k-12 advocates.

      "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent" --Gandhi

      by dsharma23 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:35:49 PM PDT

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    •  As a former UC student (both undergrad and (1+ / 0-)
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      grad work was there) all I can say is...that's complete bullshit.

      The State of California gives UC only about a quarter of its budget, yet maintains 100% control of the University. Students have literally zero control over anything other than their exam scores--I was there for the big fee protests of the early 1990s, and trust me, our efforts had zero effect. The governor and all of his appointees control the entire system.

      Students can demand anything they want, it has no effect. Blame the regents, and the governor who appoints them.


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      by EquationDoc on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:48:10 PM PDT

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