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  •  Warren Jeffs (2+ / 0-)
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    MmeVoltaire, snootless

    Warren Jeffs and some of his underlings are now indicted on child abuse charges.  I imagine the apologists for freedom of religion will be crawling out of the woodwork now to once again complain about how evil Texas is, and how oppressive those horrible "Baptists" are down there for trying to prevent the rape of young girls.

    Of course, those girls' (and boys') minds have already been stolen, they will never know what it is to have a real life and have any sort of self-esteem.  But that doesn't count.  Religion must trump physical, mental, and emotional well-being of the women and children that are the property of the powerful males.

    The Gretta show on Fox will once again roll out their pundit lawyers to say how there is no reason to prosecute these poor men for simply following their beliefs.  May God bless them and their holy quest to deflower 14 year old virgins and kick out their brothers onto the street, it is freedom of religion after all, and by God this is America where people have rights guaranteed by the constitution (unless they are women and children born into certain religious sects that is, they have no rights in this country.)!

    When I look at how Religion is used to abuse people with impunity in this so-called land of the free, I just want to scream.  No recourse against this monster, no democracy or constitution on Earth can protect people.  That's been proven.

    Fox news: Even better than meth!

    by get the red out on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 04:06:49 AM PDT

    •  one of the reasons for those prosecutions (1+ / 0-)
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      MmeVoltaire

      one of the reasons for those prosecutions is that the overall religion of those individuals is not mainstream.  if it were, i suspect we'd have seen something more along the lines of what happens when a priest or rabbi commits a similar act.

      cheers --

      •  I want them prosecuted (1+ / 0-)
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        njgoldfinch

        badly.  But they will end up still being able to go along their merry way, the cult ruining countless lives.  I am sick of them being defended because they are "poor little non-mainstream cultists".  That is no excuse for the countless women who are mentally conditioned from birth to live lives of slavery with no way out and no legal system that can protect them.  A few of the top guys of this cult might serve a little time, but the whole miserable system of abuse will continue protected by the law in this country as it has for over a hundred years.  No offence, but to say they are being prosecuted because they aren't mainstream is another appologist gimic, not that you meant it that way, but I have seen that used to defend the crimes of this cult so many times.

        I agree with you about mainstream religious people getting too many breaks.  One thing though with people living at least somewhat in the "mainstream" is that victims can more easily escape and get help.  Of course children cannot escape if their parents are in full flight from reality, but they are permitted as adults to leave behind the untouchable mythological system that made their abuse possible in the first place.  Cult victims' minds will never be their own.  And the law itself seems to conspire to give them no escape at any point in their lives.

        All of this abuse needs to stop.  I have just about given up on any real advocation for people abused by religion, in all its many untouchable forms, until we are willing to look at what Religion is right in the face, no appologies, look at the truth.  I want more public discussion on how this stuff is used to harm people, and how there is no logical basis for any of it, yet it can be used to injure and deny human rights in so many ways.  When it becomes ok to discuss this, then we may finally see some advocation for the victims, now all we get are the appologists clinging to "freedom of religion".  But we all know if some dude from the "hood" somewhere did any of the things we see so many "religious authorities" do with impunity his ass would be UNDER the jail with no excuses made for him by anyone.

        Fox news: Even better than meth!

        by get the red out on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 06:30:00 AM PDT

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