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  •  The market has its own collectivism (4+ / 0-)
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    only it skews its benefits to a few at the expense of the many. That's why the late nineteenth century saw Populism sweep across the Midwest. Anger at Eastern bankers and the manipulations of commodities and the tight monetary policy created huge problems. The market immiserates more than it emancipates.

    The market isn't reflective of popular will nor does it allocate resources in a way that distributes benefits with any equity.

    I'm not advocating for a "collectivism" in terms of a totalitarian communism, but if you look at, for example, Aristotle's Politics, you'll find that the individual as such only occurs within a social situation. The unsocialized man, and yes for Aristotle it was men, is either an outlaw or a tyrant.

    The examples you give are those of mobs, and it's worth remembering that that is why the US is a representative democracy and not a direct democracy. The Framers of the Constitution had a great fear of the mob and saw them as a threat to liberty.

    Our disagreement is most acute in your finding in "choice" some public virtue. I think that choice is manipulable, frequently based on prejudice and not reflection, and more often irrational than rational. That seems a poor basis on which to base a political philosophy.

    Henry Wallace (1944): "The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact."

    by TNThorpe on Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 04:28:28 PM PDT

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