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  •  Clinton winning is not about women (3+ / 0-)
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    maryru, Themistoclea, futurebird

    Unlike some candidates, Clinton ran on her qualifications. She earned nearly half of the vote. She should be offered the position. But if she isn't, then offering it to another, less qualified, woman in order to appease those mythical women who simply will vote for any female candidate is a slap in the face to everybody who voted for Clinton because they liked her politics, not her vagina.

    •  And all other Dem women in politics are less (3+ / 0-)
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      askew, brein, Lazar

      qualified than Clinton assuming that nothing else matters in picking a vp?

      You are a child of the universe; no less than the trees and the stars... Desiderata

      by byteb on Mon Aug 04, 2008 at 04:11:32 PM PDT

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    •  If this were the case (1+ / 0-)
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      Stroszek

      Why is every threat prefaced by or including Hillary's gender? If she's qualified her being a woman and having the blanket statement of women and how she's impacted women wouldn't be thrown in your face.

      •  By that logic... (0+ / 0-)

        Obama is nothing more than an affirmative action candidate. You'll have a hard time defending the logic.

        •  Please explain? (0+ / 0-)

          Because the only affirmative action I see is by those clamoring to have Hillary on the ticket because she's a woman while all the other possible candidates who would help Obama and be better qualified are thrown to the side because 'women would be mad'. Hillary's gender is thrown in even more so because Iowa happened. It's used to her benefit. Obama's race is used against him and not by him unlike Hillary who used every angle to play a victim. Please explain your logic. Thank you.

    •  you are making a lot of false assumptions (7+ / 0-)

      Sebelius is far more qualified than many of the male candidates who are mentioned (without a peep of protest). Why shouldn't she be considered on the same terms?

      Immediately assuming that Sebelius would only be picked on the basis of gender is insulting.

    •  Obama would never do this to APPEASE women (1+ / 0-)
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      brein

      He's surrounded by strong women who sure as hell don't WANT appeasement!! That's offensive to women.

      "Statistics are people with the tears washed away." Sociologist Ruth Sidel

      by Vicky on Mon Aug 04, 2008 at 06:20:16 PM PDT

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    •  it clearly is about being a woman (0+ / 0-)

      if not, why aren't you bitching about him picking Tim Kaine?  Why aren't you bitching about him not picking Biden over Hillary?  If it's about qualifications alone, be consistent.

      Obama isn't choosing based on qualifications alone.  The sooner this false premise is dropped, the better for everyone.  If Obama feels Sebelius is the person he'd best govern with, women should be ecstatic, not bitter.  Fricking absurd.  Unbelievable even.

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