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  •  Wolfson is an asshole (3+ / 0-)
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    And these Hillary people (sometimes including Hillary herself) are starting to get on my shit list radar again.  I wonder what they are actually hoping to accomplish.  Are they under some delusion that if they can take Obama down this year that she can win in 2012?  Do they honestly feel like that's worth putting our nation through another 4 years of Republican leadership at one of the most crucial crossroads in our history?  Are Hillary's personal ambitions and pardon the term, 'testicular fortitude' enough to derail the party; or will Hillary Clinton just emerge from an overwhelming Obama victory looking like a has-been?  Time will tell.

    •  Yes (5+ / 0-)

      Do they honestly feel like that's worth putting our nation through another 4 years of Republican leadership at one of the most crucial crossroads in our history?

      Yes.  Careerism is a disease

      "For the love of god learn to think on your own" Me

      by givemhellHarryR on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 08:15:04 AM PDT

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    •  According to PUMAs calling CSPAN (1+ / 0-)
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      and a ton of them do.....Yes. They say they will vote for McCain and in 4 years, Hillary will be President. They are delusional and destructive.

      The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

      by wishingwell on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 08:36:34 AM PDT

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      •  granted, some of these callers probably (1+ / 0-)
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        were never going to vote for a Democrat in November anyway, some may be Republicans and some DINOS, and some just want Hillary and no one else.

        The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama

        by wishingwell on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 08:37:51 AM PDT

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    •  The real reason (0+ / 0-)

      Hillary failed!

      Clinton ran on the basis of managerial competence—on her capacity, as she liked to put it, to "do the job from Day One." In fact, she never behaved like a chief executive, and her own staff proved to be her Achilles’ heel. What is clear from the internal documents is that Clinton’s loss derived not from any specific decision she made but rather from the preponderance of the many she did not make. Her hesitancy and habit of avoiding hard choices exacted a price that eventually sank her chances at the presidency. What follows is the inside account of how the campaign for the seemingly unstoppable Democratic nominee came into being, and then came apart.

      Couldn't stand her myself.

      "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."T.J.

      by smkngman on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:57:04 AM PDT

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