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  •  The title of his book was (5+ / 0-)

    "Churchill, Stalin, and the Unnecessary War" dipshit.

    But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false--about Hope ~BHO -6.38/-7.08

    by OH 09 Dem on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 01:27:21 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, and his premise was that the (2+ / 0-)
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      war in its entirety, from its roots in Versailles, through to the events leading up to war, were unnecessary. To take from that the notion that he would have approved of "leaving fascism and Naziism be" once it had actually manifested itself is an absurd distortion. Maybe you should read past the title to actually understand such nuances.

      I am going to choose to ignore your petty name calling.

      •  I read the book ... (4+ / 0-)
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        First chapter starts out bemoaning how white people are going to die out -- oh, why oh why did they have to kill each other, give up their empires and not continue to breed fast enough!

        Followed by a few hundred pages of historical what-ifs which are oblivious to the fact that fighting Hitler was possibly the only good war in this century.

        Obama, don't take my advice. I'm just an anonymous blogger on the 'nets.

        by Bronxist on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 01:53:05 PM PDT

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      •  Ok, I have to first apologize for the (3+ / 0-)
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        name calling, that's unlike me and I probably over-reacted a bit--especially considering that you are sincere and not simply trolling.  Ok, now the reason why I responded the way I did was because you said this:

        And where did he supposedly say the US should not have been involved in WW2?

         Which of course, has been responded to many other times during this diary so I'm not going to beat it to death, but that's what I was responding to.  The title of the book and many other articles by him directly answer your question.  I should note, however, that the later arguments you make (e.g. Treaty of Versailles, invasion of Ruhr District, etc, etc,)  are compelling and accurate historical reasons as to why the War happened and how it could have been avoided.  But, Pat and you (by your comments) conflate the arguments vis a vis "The War should have been prevented" and "The War wasn't worth fighting."

        But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false--about Hope ~BHO -6.38/-7.08

        by OH 09 Dem on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 02:49:04 PM PDT

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        •  No I don't conflate those two points. (0+ / 0-)

          But, Pat and you (by your comments) conflate the arguments vis a vis "The War should have been prevented" and "The War wasn't worth fighting."

          And neither does Buchanan, other than in the sense that it was a preventable and pointless slaughter of millions. But his argument lies firmly in the camp of "the war was preventable, and that post WW1 actions of the Allies largely brought a militant Hitler, and the war, on themselves.

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