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  •  at first i thought it was a draw (none)
    and in some ways it may be; the measure is different for the different men.  cheney is definately OLD SCHOOL; forcing his way by whatever means necessary.  edwards is humane and i believe ethical.  

    i felt for him receiving the 'slime' from cheney but HE HANDLED IT BRILLIANTLY.

    cheney did not make a 'mistake' on the 'first time i've met you' line; it was very calculated and like the other times he's dishonest, a calculated gamble whether it will get more plus than minus.  he calculates that it will damage by people thinking edwards is not doing the job he has before he gets hired for another one.  and that it's ok for cheney to make that point and be dishonest because it will do greater damage; he calculates that the slime he sends out is greater than the slime he gets from saying something that's untrue.  it's a tactic.

    (i guess in other words; a lot of what cheney does is weigh slime!)

    but seriously that is something to think through for kerry and edwards as they keep getting slammed for not being present for votes in the senate; they need to come up with a clear statement on that.  i'm sure lots of other politicians have had to answer that accusation as they campaigned for another office.

    now that time has gone by, i think edwards was the clear winner.  he did not succumb to the slime; he got his points in; he did not come across as a lightweight.  he stood up for his team and for WE THE PEOPLE.  he went toe to toe with the most difficult of opponents; much harder than bush; and there was no damage to the kerry campaign.  i call that a WIN!

    my aunt said: "i thought edwards did a good job; he held his own against the country's #1 crook."

    •  DUH (none)
      "that is something to think through for kerry and edwards as they keep getting slammed for not being present for votes in the senate; they need to come up with a clear statement on that."

      Vacation days.

      Carter: 79 days/term
      Reagan: 167 days/term
      Bush 41: 543 days/term
      Clinton: 76 days/term
      Bush 43: 250+ days/term

      "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
      -John Maynard Keynes

      by Dragonchild on Wed Oct 06, 2004 at 04:15:10 AM PDT

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      •  Response for Edwards (none)

        "Mr. Cheeney attacked my attendance record in the Senate tonight, with distortions we have come to know from this administration.

        I started my run for President after watching the results of this administration's first two (?) disastrous years in office. I felt something had to be done. John Kerry and I both agree that we need a change.

        Before I started my run for President, I missed just seven votes out of 1,307 - A far better attendance record than Mr Cheeney had in Congress.

        On the other hand, Mr. Bush has spent a larger portion of his time on vacation than any President in the last 30 years, this including the critical weeks leading up to 9/11, when the 9/11 commission reports intelligence warnings were at an all-time high."

        And the source materials, provided by you kossaks:
        BatmanRKC's link to Journalnow
        Dragonchild 's post with vacationdays

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