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  •  Slippage (none)
    I don't understand why anyone's getting excited over the debate: Edwards was good and had some great moments.  He didn't really disappoint anyone.  And anyone who thought he was going to "destroy" an accomplished liar like Cheney (who sees AIDS victims as "potential workers") doesn't know how it works.

    But let's not the forget the fact that this was a VP debate.  Bush's performance last week was so horrible that even when Cheney is a smooth talker, it just draws the memory back to Bush's inane behavior and responses.

    There are 19,189,902 of us and 213 of them.

    by NYCO on Wed Oct 06, 2004 at 03:52:53 AM PDT

    •  a disaster for Edwards would make it a level field (none)
      again and stop Bush's slide. Edwards didn't allow it. That's the media story, like it or not.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Wed Oct 06, 2004 at 03:57:59 AM PDT

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      •  Which I completely agree with (none)
        I don't think Edwards was a clear winner or loser. I know the MSNBC commentators thought Cheney was the winner because he drew more blood, but Cheney is clearly the more difficult of the Bush/Cheney duo to debate. So I think Edwards did a fantastic job of keeping pace with him, thwarting him where possible, and refuting his charges every step of the way. In that sense, I think Edwards was fantastic. But he didn't "win" the debate as clearly as Kerry won on Thursday.

        I'm glad to see the spinmeisters didn't just watch MSNBC to decide how to call this, because nearly everyone else on TV thought it was a draw.

        •  emails to matthews (none)
          hardball@msnbc.com

          tell him that he was off compared to everyone else, and that he's entitled to his opinion but that he should acknowledge it as such.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Wed Oct 06, 2004 at 04:49:42 AM PDT

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    •  Attorney Approach (4.00)
      In some ways, I thought Edwards did a masterful job of making his case to the jury.  He kept return to the point that Cheney and Bush aren't straight with the American people.  And, lo and behold, Cheney offered up a couple of fresh new examples during the debate of calculated untruthfulness.

      Given the skepticism now of the press and American public, I think Edwards set this up well to be considered the winner of the debate in the long run.

      Can we expect security from the insecure?

      by PSoTD on Wed Oct 06, 2004 at 04:34:38 AM PDT

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    •  At this point, Kerry/Edwards (none)
      need to remain on the offensive, and blunt any attacks -- Edwards did this perfectly (sufficiently), and came across as an acceptable replacement for Cheney, there was no significant "stature gap", despite Cheney being 75 years older than Edwards, and with 58 more years of political experience.  (my figures might not be 100% correct.)

      In that sense, it is a victory, because no (serious) blood was drawn, and KE04 are standing taller than BC04 to begin with...

      Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children. - Khalil Gibran

      by PBJ Diddy on Wed Oct 06, 2004 at 04:37:46 AM PDT

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