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  •  but it's just soooooooooooooooo unlikely (3+ / 0-)
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    as to really, really, really strain credulity.

    any stats on the christian population of vietnam circa our misadventure there?

    and then, what percentage of them might be in the viet cong?

    i think that Venn diagram would be fascinating.

    it's just hella crazy coincidental for mccain to have had the same prisoner experience as Solzhenitsyn, an author with whom he is quite familiar.

    add in the other details about the timeline of this story first appearing in mccain's repertoire, and i'm sorry.  i know it's still at best circumstantial, but i firmly believed he plagiarized.  it's just too much.

    where was he imprisoned, anyway?  it is very, very easy to corroborate whether mccain's prison had a dirt courtyard.

    "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

    by Cedwyn on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 07:42:33 AM PDT

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    •  Disagree. Cross is most used religious symbol. nt (1+ / 0-)
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      by Gorette on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 08:14:21 AM PDT

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    •  Gotta think like a defense attorney (7+ / 0-)

      Given that Vietnam was a former French colony, and had its share of missionaires and parochial schools pre-war,  the existence of Vietnamese Christians  isn't totally unexpected.

      and of course the reason McCain didn't mention him in 1973 was ecause he didn't want to get the guy in trouble,

      And as to the Similarities with the Novel?  Well communist gulags and communist prison camps are bound to have some similarities.  

      of course all this is BS but it is what you'll be hearing from that side soon

      Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

      by Magorn on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 08:33:15 AM PDT

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      •  If you end up hearing this from their side... (6+ / 0-)

        ...then the media war is already won, because it means McCain is on the defense about what he regards as his strength.

        (Hence, why I think this story will probably get no mention at all in the traditional media.)

        "Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity."

        by SLKRR on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 08:39:56 AM PDT

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      •  of course it's not unexpected (4+ / 0-)
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        but that would be a damn fascinating Venn diagram.  i'm sorry, but i think the odds of such are slim.

        a cursory googling says that christians were routinely persecuted in vietnam.

        "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

        by Cedwyn on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 10:09:30 AM PDT

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      •  Why did McCain never point out the similarity? (3+ / 0-)
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        I think McCain (well, his ghost writer anyway, who is a bit of a Solzhenitsyn expert) even wrote a obituary of Solzhenitsyn, without mentioning the similarity of his own experience with that well known story about the Nobel prize winner.

        Vote for McCain to continue the fight against al-Qaeda, vote for Obama to finish it. </war&gt

        by Calouste on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 10:54:39 AM PDT

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        •  Now you're cooking with Gas! (0+ / 0-)

          Now you got something, Since both McCain and the writer have read that book, the should, at the very least have been struck enough, by the similarity  to comment on it.

          That is indeed the dog that didn't bark.

          Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

          by Magorn on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 01:26:59 PM PDT

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