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  •  then we're going to have to be willing to sacrifi (4+ / 0-)
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    ce in ways that I haven't seen very much of, to be honest, even in the liberal blogosphere. There's so much genuflecting to the rights of corporatist overlords, even here on the New Left, so much acceptance already of American Exceptionalism and God-Given Privilege and howling screaming baby-temper-tantrums over even the suggestion of giving things up for the sake of others, of any kind of Dorothy-Day-Godless-Commie-Hippie-Bullshit about "living simply so that others may simply live" - I remember the passionate, passionate defenses of the Right To Drive SUVs a couple years ago here, and how this was a NEED, DAMMIT, not a luxury!!! (even tho' SUVs hardly existed 20 years ago) reminding me of the time when as a charity pupil at a private school, my mind was boggled as my classmates insisted that yes, they HAD known the same sort of want and deprivation as kids in the third world [sic] - one girl complained that her lawyer parents wouldn't give her the pair of Doctor Scholls Excersoles that she NEEDED, and another brought up the Pac-Man Watch that they had been denied...

    If we don't change, however, then we will be changed - from without. And it will be a hell of a lot worse when it is imposed upon us by circumstances beyond our control. But there are many, many extinct civilizations across the globe, and why should we be the exception to ten thousand years of history?

    "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

    by bellatrys on Sun Aug 24, 2008 at 07:49:59 AM PDT

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    •  There will be no change until economic reality (6+ / 0-)

      really sets in. Americans have been allowed to believe they are middle class because of their credit cards and housing equity loans. This is coming to an end with the credit shut down.

      Some will still be ok. Food, housing, cars. But find luxuries are not possible. Others, will soon not be able to afford even those. When enough people lose their fake prosperity but still see it on tv one of two things will happen: either the system will completely shut them out and it won't matter they will be marginalized, or, they will demand change from the system and it might not be in a nice way.

      •  if we give ourselves Dust Bowl II (1+ / 0-)
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        or other forms of arable land loss due to climate change, we may be in a position from which "changing the system" is not going to be able to recover us, no matter how much people give up luxuries.

        "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

        by bellatrys on Sun Aug 24, 2008 at 10:05:20 AM PDT

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