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  •  Yes, quite true. (0+ / 0-)

    But why don't they know or understand these things?  In many cases, it's because they do know that Authority is lying to them ... and so they distrust any information that doesn't come through their personal networks, most of whom, due to the nature of class structure and this kind of distrust, are as uneducated and ignorant as they are.

    Knowledge is power.  Schools, media, and other distributional efforts by the social aristocracy attempt to impose that power on the lower classes by educating them to be "good workers" and happy slaves of the system.  It's no wonder that most members of the propagandized class rebel to varying degrees against this indoctrination, even when the information being given to them happens to be the truth.  You can't just give them information to make it better; you have to get past a very healthy level of distrust first ... the Right does this by being willing to deliberately speak in their dialect, utilize their trusted channels of communication (personal relationships within churches, for instance, and organized social networking), and imitate their physical body-mannerisms.  All the Left does is insult them.  Who would you join?

    •  I don't know how much of what they.... (0+ / 0-)

      ....learn isn't true and they rightfully ignore it.....or is just too superficial to be of any use to them.

      I had good and bad political education when I went to school in the 70s. I learned about checks and balances through the separation of powers. I also learned about how obviously "superior" capitalism was through the required "Americanism vs Communism" course.

      I think the worst thing that US schools do, is make children recite The Pledge of Allegiance. I remember seeing comedy programs that showed kids mangling the Pledge: " nation under god, invisible, with liberty and justice for all". The kids were having a problem with it, because they didn't really understand what they were saying.

      Forcing children (as young as six years of age) to recite a loyalty oath that they cannot understand is nothing more than brainwashing. These children don't know what liberty and justice are, but they learn to associate them with the United States. So when they become adults, it's not surprising that so many of them refuse to believe that the US is not a very free and just society. They'll even become angry at anyone who questions something that has been drilled into their brains through thousands of repetitions.

      There are many nations with more freedom and justice than the US. But as long as the low information voters believe that the US is as good as it gets, they won't vote for something better.

      McCain mortgage policy shaped by banking lobbyist.

      by xynz on Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 07:26:48 PM PDT

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      •  I totally agree (1+ / 0-)
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        about the pledge.  In fact, I deliberately refused to say it anymore after I read Tolkien when I was ten and realized what an OATH was.  I wasn't specifically disloyal to America ... I just wasn't sure yet, and I wanted to make up my own mind in my own time.  I think having kids take Baptism or Confirmation when they're under the age of consent is similar ... an attempt to control their minds before they're sufficiently wise to make their own decisions.

        Most pagans won't accept students under 18 any more because of legal concerns with irate parents.  It's frustrating and often cruel because the kids usually start to want it around puberty.  But there's a good side to it, too; we may as a tribe be erring on the side of caution for legal reasons, but we aren't taking advantage of their inexperience and volatile emotions, either.

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