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  •  And the Electricity Comes from...Where? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    "You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists." -Abbie Hoffman

    by Uthaclena on Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 10:08:11 AM PDT

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    •  this is pretty simple really (0+ / 0-)

      you can power an electric plant in multiple ways, nuclear, wind, gas, oil, coal - shit you can dam a river and get electricity.

      You can only pour gasoline down the tank of a car.

      make an electric car and change the world.

      •  Okay, Just Wanted to Clarify That Since (0+ / 0-)

        the diary seemed to be mostly oriented to power generation and your comment (which I do agree with) is about its use.

        "You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists." -Abbie Hoffman

        by Uthaclena on Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 10:18:57 AM PDT

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        •  no. the diary is not just about power generation (1+ / 0-)
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          and neither is Pickens....

          part of Pickens' "plan" is precisely to STOP using natural gas in the power generation sector and START using it as transportation fuel (to "get us off foreign oil").

          The commenter above is making the point that THAT natural gas is much more efficiently used in the power sector, and that for much of transportation we can get much more bang for our natural gas by using it to generate electricity and powering electric cars with this, rather than locking ourselves into yet another major fossil fuel infrastructure scheme (natural gas as transportation fuel) where we end up using the natural gas--a limited and more costly by the day fuel, either way--much less efficiently. (But then Pickens doesn't seem all that interested in efficiency.)

          And we make it that much harder to shift the paradigm away from fossil fuels altogether.

          Getting off foreign oil (ie, roughly, getting off oil, period) is important. But it doesn't make any sense to consider this goal in isolation. If Pickens' suggested path away from foreign oil makes matters worse or effectively blocks progress on the transition to a new energy economy, then let's not get suckered.

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