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  •  turnabout is fair play (5+ / 0-)

    If Obama has to endure guilt-by-association attacks based on Rev. Wright, then I don't see why we shouldn't inquire into Governor Palin's church and what it says about her . . .

    . . . that she's craaayzy.  

    •  20 years... (0+ / 1-)
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      is a little more than guilt-by-association! That's an outright friendship.

      •  God Damn CaptainKidd (2+ / 0-)
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        I really despise dope smoking Republicans, the all the gay Republicans, they're such hypocrites.

        "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John Lennon

        by trashablanca on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 05:52:05 PM PDT

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        •  For the record (0+ / 0-)

          I am no Rebulican, I do smoke dope, I have no problems with gays or their rights, I am pro-choice, etc. I don't toe ANY party line!! I consider myself a fiscal conservative and a social libertarian...if you are a consenting adult and what you want to do doesn't hurt anyone or infringe on anyone else's rights, then, by all means, knock yourself out!!

          •  So why did you insist on that stupid line (1+ / 0-)
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            of attack out of the gate?  Did you think it would be productive??  

            A hard on doesn't count as personal growth...

            by browneyes on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 06:22:20 PM PDT

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            •  Didn't attack (0+ / 0-)

              Made an observation and then a comment...I went into attack mode when my comment was deleted for no apparent reason. And when I say apparent reason, I mean the following: I didn't use profanity, I didn't personally attack anyone on this site, I was not confrontational, the was no libel/slander to my comment, etc.

              I am all for removing a post that violates any of the above standards, but removing my comment simply because I disagree is not only unconscionable, it is un-American!

              •  Is this the one you're referring to? (5+ / 0-)

                WTF!! I am no fan of the Pentecostals (unfortunately I learned about them, first-hand, growing up), but how can you attack her church, with a straight face, after the Rev. Wright fiasco. If we were going on church and religious affiliation as a litmus test on the worthiness of a presidential/VP candidate, The Annointed One should have been THROWN OUT of the race long ago. As much as I don't like them, I never heard any pentecostal say "God damn America", but Obama's preacher did...and he sat there and listened to it for 20 years. Maybe we should shed ALOT more light on the church thing and let America decide. MCCAIN/PALIN '08!!

                I'm a Trusted User.  I can see hidden comments.  

                It looks pretty darned inflammatory to me.  Anointed one?  Come on.  You know that would get a lot of shit stirred!

                A hard on doesn't count as personal growth...

                by browneyes on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 07:04:44 PM PDT

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                •  Your point? (0+ / 0-)

                  So I took a shot at Obama...how is that any different than what EVERY commenter here does...besides the fact that I didn't take a jab at the SAME candidate as everyone here?!? I still didn't use profanity, nor did I attack anyone personally here at this site.

                  In this thread, the original comment I replied to was titled "turnabout is fair play". Well, is it or isn't it?

                  •  My point, as per the FAQ's, (3+ / 0-)

                    is that this is a Democratic site.  We have a number of views here, ranging from very liberal, to progressive to left of center like me.  We also have some conservatives here.  

                    Kos welcomes all points of view.  This is a community site.  WE are the community.  It's just not appreciated for someone to come in and blast the Democratic nominee.  Yeah, there is criticism of Obama, but without an ounce of credibility, it's seen as an insult.

                    A hard on doesn't count as personal growth...

                    by browneyes on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 07:15:42 PM PDT

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                    •  Without an ounce of credibility? (0+ / 0-)

                      Were you referring to Obama or me?!? Just kidding.

                      Look, all I am saying is that, despite his obvious shortcomings, I didn't dismiss Obama within a few hours of his announcement to run for president and I don't think it shows much 'credibility' on your part to do that to Palin in her run for VP. I have definite reservations about her religious affiliation (as I said, the first part of my life I was forced to go to an AOG church and it sucked). But as with any candidate, it ALWAYS comes down to more than one issue.

                      Truth be told, I don't like McCain much either. He has a few redeemable qualities (as does Obama), but if I counted them, I don't think I would need any more than one hand for each candidate.

                      Judging by some of the posts I have read here in the last few months, I have a feeling that many of the readers, and probably a few of the bloggers too, feel the same way I do. WHY, OH WHY CAN'T WE GET A CANDIDATE (on either side of the aisle) THAT WE WANT TO VOTE FOR INSTEAD OF VOTING FOR SOMEONE BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE WHO THEY ARE RUNNING AGAINST!

                      I know I have ALOT of differences with ALOT of people on this site, but can anyone back me up on this one point??

                      I doubt it, but was worth a try.

                      •  Well, you obviously don't know me. (2+ / 0-)
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                        That's ok.  I'm nobody famous.  I have a few friends here, that's all.  ;-)

                        I and a number of others have not outright dismissed Ms. Palin.  She's too conservative for my taste overall, but she does have admiral qualities.  And I do think that Obama is going to have to do more ground work than I had previously thought.

                        I voted for Bush.  Yep, I admit it.  My brother is a decorated Iraq war vet, wounded in combat.  I am no longer a fan of this administration.  Haven't been for quite some time.

                        Barack Obama is a positive candidate.  He may not be my ideal candidate, but no one is.  I think he'll bring a positive change.  I'm just sick of the gutter politics.  He hasn't rolled in the gutter, even when he was dared to in the primaries.  That is the most admirable thing about him.

                        A hard on doesn't count as personal growth...

                        by browneyes on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 07:37:04 PM PDT

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                        •  Uh, she had admirable qualities, too! (2+ / 0-)
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                          Sorry, it's the vodka.  :-)

                          A hard on doesn't count as personal growth...

                          by browneyes on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 07:42:48 PM PDT

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                        •  Fair enough (0+ / 0-)

                          When you lay it out there like that, I can respect your view and agree to disagree.

                          And just so you know, I voted for Clinton in '96 and for Bush in 2000...by 04 I was so disgusted with the whole thing, I abstained because I just couldn't bring myself to vote for Bush or Kerry. I kicked around the idea of voting for Hillary and have been kicking around the idea of voting for Bob Barr (I tend to be more libertarian anyway). Biden didn't do anything for me and I need to do more research on Palin. With Hillary out of the race and Bob Barr having less than a snowflake's chance in Hell of winning, I have to say that I am tentatively on the McCain/Palin bandwagon...whether I stay there or not, only time will tell.

                          I don't want to be labeled a troll, but if I am because I have different opinions on here, then I will wear it as a badge of honor.

                          You seem to be a worthy adversary...at the very least you didn't sink down to the level of some of your fellow commenters (I won't name names, but all you have to do is look) by calling me vulgar names and just writing me off as stupid which is, all too often, the M.O. around here.

                          •  I would love to discuss issues sometime (2+ / 0-)
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                            if you have the opportunity.  I'm usually around these here parts somewhere.

                            I think you may be surprised, when there is less hostility and labels are stripped away, many of us (including you, I'm sure) have much more in common than at first glance.

                            It may not seem so in many candidate diaries, but if you visit an issues diary, you'll see that there are various opinions here, and all are welcome.

                            Enjoy your weekend, and I look forward to engaging you in the future.    

                            A hard on doesn't count as personal growth...

                            by browneyes on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:17:26 PM PDT

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                      •  Technically, Captkidd420, Palin is not making (1+ / 0-)
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                        a "run for VP."

                        She has been anointed by handlers and controllers, advisers and managers in the McCain campaign and in the Bush administration, to serve as McCain's VP pick.

                        She has accepted their offer.

                        She is now officially the Republican vice-presidential candidate, who is running with John McCain to try to keep the White House in GOP hands.

          •  if you're really libertarian, you'd read up on (5+ / 0-)

            Dominionism and recognize that it's as dangerous to individual freedom as Marxist-Leninist communism.  

            The commies are atheists, but the Domnionists are theocrats.  See also life under the Taliban in Afghanistan.  These people do not believe in live and let live, personal choices in religion, etc.  They want to impose their extremist cultism from sea to shining sea.  

            Go back and read all of Dogemperor's stuff, it's solidly researched and there's enough to turn into a book.

            BTW, progressive libertarian here.  Since about age 9 when I first learned about eminent domain and went ballistic about it.  

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