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  •  TIME interview shows she is hiding affiliation (7+ / 0-)

    What's your religion?


    Any particular...?

    No. Bible-believing Christian.

    What church do you attend?

    A non-denominational Bible church. I was baptized Catholic as a newborn and then my family started going to non-denominational churches throughout our life.

    "Bible-believing" and, in particular, "Bible church" are codewords for fundamentalist literal interpretation and are used primarily by Dominionists.

    (every Christian believes in the Bible. Mainstream Christians don't commonly use those phrases, they are considered redundant.)

    As an explicit part of the Dominionist political agenda involves running for political office while hiding dominionist ties, this is a relevant topic for discussion. It goes directly to questions of integrity and of commitment to upholding the U.S. Constitution.

    A true Dominionist would be unable to fulfill the oath of office required by every public official.

    One day posterity will remember, this strange era, these strange times, when ordinary common honesty was called courage. -- Yevgeny Yevtushenko

    by RandomActsOfReason on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:25:04 PM PDT

    •  Sorry, forgot link to TIME interview: (1+ / 0-)
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      One day posterity will remember, this strange era, these strange times, when ordinary common honesty was called courage. -- Yevgeny Yevtushenko

      by RandomActsOfReason on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:25:48 PM PDT

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    •  Yup, she's definitely stealthing. (6+ / 0-)

      Not only that, but there's been apparently an attempt to whitewash her Wikipedia entry similarly.

      Of note, "stealth Assemblies" congregations will often advertise themselves falsely as "independent" or "non-denominational" or "evangelical" and will only disclose their true denominational affiliation (Assemblies of God) to other members--it often takes looking at things like district lists of affiliated churches or district or national Assemblies of God newsletters/magazines to find the true denominational affiliation.

      (Sometimes you can find their affiliation by finding an Assemblies frontgroup like Royal Rangers or Virtuous Women there, but they're cottoning on to this too, so district newsletters tend to be more reliable as well as Assemblies-published directories of churches meant for members.)

      As she's a member of a pretty archetypical "stealth Assemblies" congregation (listed in internal A/G documents as Assemblies, promotes itself outwardly as a nondenominational "bible church" or "charismatic church", is likely promoted internally as Assemblies to its own members with advisements to not let this out to others, explicit attempts even in the website to hide denominational affiliation), I'm not shocked she's trying to stealth her own denominational affiliation as well (she is pretty much running as the archetypical "ninja dominionist" candidate, after all!).  It's an extremely common tactic in the Assemblies, unfortunately, partly because they know they have (very well deserved) bad press and partly because this is a tactic common to coercive religious groups in general (cref. the Scientology "personality tests").

      •  If she is so stealth... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...I wonder if MCCAIN knows about it?  Their vetting process didn't seem to be very thorough.

      •  Is there a resource... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...where one could look up AoG affiliations of particular churches on the internet?

        Thanks much, btw, for the excellent diary, dogemperor!

        •  This gets difficult at times in practice. (2+ / 0-)
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          One of the more reliable sources is with the Assemblies' own website (there's a link where you can look up local churches), but again, with the "stealth Assemblies" churches this can get problematic.

          The issue is, there are Assemblies-affiliated churches that do try very hard to hide their denominational affiliation--you almost have to do a search on the church name, or its pastor, and "Assemblies" or "assembly of God" in Google to find leads to follow up.  

          With some "stealth Assemblies" congregations, even this becomes problematic--sometimes you have to look for "statements of faith" that turn out to either be carbon copies or or redirects to the Assemblies' website, or one has to go digging in the "Ministries" section for known Assemblies frontgroups/"ministries" (like Royal Rangers/Missionettes, or Seven Project, or Youth Alive, or whatnot).

          Suffice it to say that it is not always easy to determine, and there are still some cases that it is still considered iffy as to whether the church is essentially in the process of "budding" from the Assemblies or is a very well stealthed Assemblies church (New Life Church in Colorado Springs would fit here--it's not officially listed in Assemblies directories, but there are numerous links to the Assemblies (some of which were revealed in the Harper's article "Soldiers of Christ" and the movie "Jesus Camp", and some which have come out in the fiascos re Ted Haggard's attempted "degaying") including a major base camp for the Royal Rangers' equivalent of Eagle Scouting--which do tend to point to the church being a bit more closely connected than the typical megachurch "Assemblies daughter" like Cornerstone Church (Hagee's congregation) or World Harvest church in Columbus.)

          And yes, this is unfortunately done very deliberately. :(

          One thing that has tended to be helpful is keeping an awareness in trends in naming "stealth Assemblies" churches--pretty much anything with "World Prayer Center", "World Harvest Center", "City Church" (of a neopentecostal or "nondenominational" bent), "Destiny" somewhere in the name, lots of references to "Fire" (like being "on fire" or "fresh fire", etc.), or "Christian Life Center" or "Christian Center" tend to point strongly to "stealthed" Assemblies congregations and "Assemblies daughters".

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