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    Just thought that I should clarify on a few points...trust me - people are never annoyed by multiple corrections on these type of posts! The truth is why they're reading this anyway, right? Juneau Christian Center is in Juneau - about 550 miles away from Wasilla. It is not really a matter of Sarah attending up until recently. She doesn't live here, even though the mansion is here, she lives up north in Wasilla. During legislative session (which is held in Juneau, January-April for 90 days) she has attended Juneau Christian Center, but not a member. A medium size church for Juneau.

    There is really no such thing as an "Independent Christian Church" movement - there are non-denominational churches for all types of reasons - some broke away from a denomination - some started as non-denominational because they didn't want any oversight etc - but, that will be for another post!

    I'll try and explain neo-pentocolism and dominionism correctly as well. People can be so gullible on the 'net!

    •  Re corrections, clarifications, etc. (0+ / 0-)

      In regards to the "Independent Christian Church" movement, I'm afraid that in this case you are incorrect--there is actually a movement, and even an association, of "Independent Christian Churches" of this sort, and they do trend dominionist.  (This is, of note, completely aside from legitimately nondenominational churches not part of the neopentecostal or "Independent Christian Church" movement.)

      This is an area I do have some familiarity with, seeing as two of the largest dominionist churches in my state--both of which are major "power players" in political organisation, and one of which is the de facto FotF state affiliate headquarters in Lexington--are in fact part of this association and this movement, and the one close to my town (the largest megachurch in the state, Southeast Christian) has in fact had its tax-exempt status pulled in past for illegal electioneering.

      And in regards to dominionism and neopentecostal dominionism (I do this on a lot of posts, I'll go into detail here, just so there is no confusion):

      The sense in which I refer to "dominionism" is not restricted to Christian Reconstructionism, but also encompasses those particular varieties of "Christian nationalism" popular in neopentecostal circles (in particular, those churches and denominations descended from the Assemblies of God as well as the Assemblies itself) that do in fact promote versions of dominion theology as a reason for "Christian nationalism".  (Of note, the specific claim is different, some of the terminology has diverged, but both "Christian nationalism" and "name it and claim it"/"word faith theology" in neopente circles are in fact ultimately derived from dominion theology; I've done a writeup here on just how far back it goes.  One minor hint: "Latter rain" theology never really died in the Assemblies so much as was officially disclaimed whilst privately encouraged.)

      The major eschatological difference is that Christian Reconstructionists are postmillenial, whilst most neopente dominionists are premillenial (and rather than bringing in the Millenium, they see "Christian nationalism" as effectively a way of "naming and claiming" the country in a form of "spiritual warfare", also hold the US and Israel have dual statuses as "chosen nations", and fear damnation of the country if it is not "named and claimed").

      I use the term "neopente dominionism" to define the form of "Christian nationalism" common in these groups, and as a method of noting its distinctness from Christian Reconstructionism (the far better known variety of Christian Nationalism in the US); despite actually having a longer history (dating back to the late 20s-early 30s) there has been woefully little research done on "Christian Nationalism" within the neopente community, and I can count the major researchers in the field on one hand (and two have retired from active research, including Sara Diamond--whose book "Spiritual Warfare" was the first focusing on this distinct form of "Christian nationalism").

      As for neopentecostalism--pretty much every group traditionally considered neopentecostal is part of an identifiable family of denominations (including megachurches that essentially operate as one-church denominations, like World Harvest Church or Cornerstone Church) that ultimately derives from the Assemblies of God or descendant denominations (typically Foursquare or Vineyard via Calvary Chapel--itself a Foursquare descendant).  Even though chronologically the Assemblies and Foursquare would be considered "old pentecostals", theologically speaking they have more in common with neopentecostal groups than either non-Assemblies trinitarian pentecostal groups (such as pentecostal groups in the African-American community, Christian and Missionary Alliance, etc.) or "Oneness Pentecostals".

      In other words, here, I'm using less of a chronological and more of a "shared theology" definition.  Yes, I know this does tend to throw folks for a loop; unfortunately, outside of the apologetics community there just really hasn't been a whole lot of formal research or even informal research on this.

      I don't take offense at all at editing, certainly. :3  I did want to note where I am coming from--in a way, I'm writing about a field in which very little formal research or even standardised vocabulary exists, and what exists even within "Christian nationalist" communities within the Assemblies and "Bible churches" of this sort is in a constant state of flux (and largely by design).  Pretty much this is something I've done some consistent research on since even before I was able to fully walk away--at the beginning, for personal "exit counseling", and later as a way to explain to folks what I had been through and why I tend to have such a horror of "Christian nationalist" movements in general (neopente dominionist, Christian Reconstructionist, ultramontaine Catholic, or pure political "Christian nationalist" groups like Focus on the Family et al).

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