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  •  Re: Stephanie Cutter -- getting a deserved smackdo (3.60)
    You know, I am beginning to see this as a real boost for Dean.  Kerry, Gep, Lieberman - all of them just don't seem to 'get' who their constituency is.  I believe most Demos say the Saddam news and issued a big `So what?'  All of the talk shows were about how this will affect Dean.  Hogwash.  Lieberman was attacking Dean more than Prancer, who actually sounded cautious.  Throw in the timing of the attack ad, which Trippi seems to be turning to his advantage and you begin to see a pattern.

    The `Circular Firing Squad' seems to remind me of a scene in "Total Recall".  It is towards the end when Ahnold is in the Martian Pyramid and has a holographic watch which produces a duplicate image of himself.  In one seen he uses it to get a few of the attackers to kill themselves.  These guys seem to be firing into a holographic image of Dean and wounding each other in the process.

    GWB - "All bully; no pulpit" - Wes Clark; Common Sense - Thomas Paine, 1776 - Howard Dean, 2003

    by RichM on Wed Dec 17, 2003 at 03:37:55 PM PST

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    •  Re: Stephanie Cutter -- getting a deserved smackdo (4.00)
      These guys seem to be firing into a holographic image of Dean and wounding each other in the process.

      Dean is the holographic image. Standing in front of a crowd of a half a million people. That's who they end up shooting at.  And we don't appreciate getting shot at. [e.g. I turned from "wait-and-see" to "seek-and-destroy" on Kerry when he said, "Howard Dean's opposition to the war was wrong," which I translated to: "Jumbo, your opposition to the war was wrong" and from there to "Millions of people the world over, your oppostion to the war was wrong" which, even if it's true is not what I want to hear from a guy who wants my vote.]

      Their problem is that they think the way to bring us into their camp is to kill Dean. But this is like going up to a beautiful woman at a party and trying to seduce her by explaining what an asshole her boyfriend is. Most Deanies, especially old-school, 2002 type Deanies, have had themselves nice and mentally prepared to jump ship and get in bed with a Kerry or a Gephardt. But constantly being lectured to about how awful Dean is is not going to make me want to wave a Kerry or Gephardt sign. That's what they don't get. Or they do get it and the just desperately want to spread lies to the uninformed and depress voter turnout so they have  a chance of squeaking by Dean. I hope they're just idiots and not cynical fuckwads but the jury's still out.

      Joe Trippi is a Jedi.

      by Jumbo on Wed Dec 17, 2003 at 04:37:53 PM PST

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      •  Re: Stephanie Cutter -- getting a deserved smackdo (3.50)
        I hope they're just idiots and not cynical fuckwads but the jury's still out.

        Nope to the first, yes to the second...

        Gep, Kerry and Edwards were being doubly cynical when they voted to allow Junior to have his little Iraq adventure.  Not only did they avoid being "anti-war" and "pro-Hussein" (a la SCLM), they knew that Georgie and company would find a way to screw the pooch AGAIN, boosting their own presidential hopes.  Hell, I knew that.  They were as into spending lives and treasure for political advantage as Shrub.

        And now they're pissed that some small-state governor is redesigning their posteriors by being as honest and forthright as they should have been.

        I exempted Lieberman from this scenario; he has other problems entirely...

        I used to be disgusted, now I'm just amused.

        by wozzle on Wed Dec 17, 2003 at 05:15:51 PM PST

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      •  Re: Stephanie Cutter -- getting a deserved smackdo (4.00)
        Man, you are absolutely right.

        When Joe Lieberman was spouting off about how Howard Dean was foolish for stating that America was no safer after Saddam was captured, all I could think was 'I don't think America is any safer today either. Am I a fool too? Is Joe calling me a fool? Why doesn't he explain why it's safer, instead of just calling me a fool?'

        These tactics solidify the support for Dean, who is standing by his message and treating his supporters with intelligence and respect.

        •  Re: Stephanie Cutter -- getting a deserved smackdo (none)
          When Joe Lieberman was spouting off about how Howard Dean was foolish for stating that America was no safer after Saddam was captured, all I could think was 'I don't think America is any safer today either. Am I a fool too?

          Exactly. Basically what Joe was saying was that DailyKos.com is a sport of digital "spider hole of denial". I mean, I get the sentiment and see the logic, but I think Joe's an asshole for saying it and none of us are going to vote for him because of it.

          Joe Trippi is a Jedi.

          by Jumbo on Thu Dec 18, 2003 at 01:01:06 AM PST

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