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  •  Give it up Edgar - no one manipulates (0+ / 0-)

    someone's fucking Senate voting record.  Go troll elsewhere shitbag

    •  they manipulate the meaning of the vote (0+ / 0-)

      they do it all the time.

      mccain will tell voters what obama was trying to do when he voted against funding, he will frame that vote a certain way to portray obama in an untruthful way.

      what are you gonna do.  pretend only republicans do that?

      "two psychics pass each other on the street, one says to the other 'you're doing alright, how am i?'"

      by Edgar08 on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 03:55:59 PM PDT

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      •  wrong, and naive. (0+ / 0-)

        The 'meaning' of a vote is whether you support the substance of the bill or not.  Period.

        There are some procedural votes that can confuse this, but the simple meaning of voting for something is that you support it.

        •  so obama supports spying on americans then (0+ / 0-)

          I guess?  no.  i don't think so.

          i'm not a big fan of black and white thinking.  i know a lot of people will vote for obama without agreeing with him on everything.

          i know a lot of people will vote for mccain without agreeing with him on everything.

          "two psychics pass each other on the street, one says to the other 'you're doing alright, how am i?'"

          by Edgar08 on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 04:23:46 PM PDT

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          •  still stupid (0+ / 0-)

            Maybe in favor of telecom immunity, but he never voted for spying. Unable to tell the difference?  Unable to admit you are wrong?

            And the issue of voting for a bill is completely different from voting for a candidate.  If you can't tell the difference, you're fucking stupid

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