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  •  I did google it (2+ / 0-)
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    Catte Nappe, slandurgurl

    and I definitely see the images you are talking about.  To be frank, however, the idea that the University of Florida's ubiquitous "Gator Bait" cheer was racist would never have occurred to me before today.  I'm in New Orleans, and what I see of the University of Florida is basically when they play LSU, but I've seen that whole "Gator Bait" thing with the arms a lot.  If it really is a racist thing, somebody needs to tell the University of Florida.  I'm not sure their fans who do that whole thing think it is a racist cheer, as I've seen plenty of African American fans doing that arm thing with the cheer.  I suspect that many people -- many University of Florida fans -- who do that just don't have any idea of the background you are showing here and really aren't intending to be racist. Maybe I'm an idealist, but I just don't think thousands of people would yell that at football game after football game if they thought it was a racist cheer.

    •  I respect your ignorance, but... (3+ / 0-)
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      samddobermann, cosette, slandurgurl

      ...this can't be the first time this has ever been mentioned. Somebody at the U of F must be aware of this.

      Look how long it's taking the University of Illinois to get rid of their blatantly racist "Chief Illiniwek" mascot. (Usually A white guy in "Indian" garb doing a fake dance at halftime. Sick)  

      "It is often pleasant to stone a martyr, no matter how much we admire him"...John Barth

      by Giles Goat Boy on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 12:53:40 PM PDT

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      •  My only point (2+ / 0-)
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        slandurgurl, Giles Goat Boy

        is that this concept was unknown to me until this diary, and I'm a well-educated, pretty informed person.  Maybe it's my general nature to think good of most people, but I suspect that the concept might be unknown to a lot of Florida football fans as well.  Maybe I'm an idealist, but I don't think they (including the African American fans) are all doing that cheer to be racists. I'm not sure they know the racist background pointed out by the diarist here.

        •  Did you look at the photo (first link)? (1+ / 0-)
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          slandurgurl

          With an Obama doll in the mouth of the alligator?

          I can't speak to sports fans and the hat, but the folks at the Repug convention know what message they are sending.

          "Liberty produces wealth and that wealth destroys liberty." - Henry Demarest Lloyd

          by orangeuglad on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 01:38:08 PM PDT

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        •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

          I have to believe that Florida fans shout "gator-bait" in reference to the mascot; I'm sure some know it's significance, but the majority are only thinking football, not racism...I hope, anyway.

          With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. JL Picard

          by slandurgurl on Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 01:43:08 PM PDT

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    •  I think you're right about that (1+ / 0-)
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      slandurgurl

      There is, however, a tendency for people to say "well, that was back then..it means something different now". Think Confederate Flag, as an example. So people may 'know' that allusion to gator bait and see it as a historical blip unrelated to rooting for their team.

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