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  •  A Real War on Terrorism (Islamic Extremism / (none)

    1.  Finish off Taliban in Afghanistan and concentrate on capturing all Al Qaeda leaders, especially bin Laden.  Expansion of UN zones throughout the country.
    2.  Sanctions on Pakistan until they come clean about AQ Kahn.  Covert ops in Pakistan.
    3.  Open up dialog with anti-Monarchist forces in Arabia.  Push for democratization of regime, end poicy of footsy with medieval monarchists.
    4.  Alliance with Russia v. Chechen terrorism.
    5.  Push Likuid govt hard, hope for crisis, aid to Labor & Merets (sp?).  Negotiate Palestinian state (with Nobel Peace Prize winner Yasser Arafat) during first term with US-led UN-sanctioned seperation zone.
    6.  Improve Dept of Homeland Security.
    7.  NATO-ize Iraq.  Form loose federation in hopes of appeasing the Sunnis.  The Bush plan is pushing us toward involvement in a three-way civil war (if elections are not nation-wide, but instead exclude Sunni areas).

    That'll difuse anti-Americanism.
    Hopefully lead to liberalization of Muslim world (meaning, women will be allowed to drive, et al).

    Just some quick thoughts.

    Everybody talks about John Edwards' energy, intellect and charisma -- Bill Clinton

    by philgoblue on Mon Oct 11, 2004 at 09:23:18 PM PDT

    •  Just A Minor Correction (4.00)
      Neither the Saud family nor the Wahabis are "medieval monarchists". They are both a much more recent concoction, dating only to the late 1800's, with an ascendancy during WWII. The rest is bathed in oil.

      The Wahabi sect is a recent perversion of Islam which has persecuted Sufis and other Muslims not willing to conform to the Wahabi brand of religious intolerance and anti-female behavior. They are not well-liked in much of the Islamic world, but their alliance with the Saud Family, dating back to the early 1900's, and their control of the sacred cities of Mecca and Medina has given them the authority and ability to spread their virulence world-wide. Indeed, as Kerry has said, the Saudi's have not conducted one single investigation of financing of terrorist networks since 9-11, despite the direct participation of its nationals. I think he's on to something.

      Iraq is deja vu all over again.

      by chuco35 on Mon Oct 11, 2004 at 11:53:00 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks (none)
        Yea, "medieval" was meant to demonstrate their pre-Enlightenment ideas and practices, not be chronologically correct.

        For the record:
        Its founder Muhammad ibn-Abd al-Wahhab (1703-1792) was in many ways an Islamic Luther -- he criticized ritualism, worshipi of saints and holy places, rejected rationalist theology (as Luther criticized the Scholastics, esp Aquinas), emphasized only the first Holy Text, and was intollerant of other beliefs.  After his death, his followers captured Mecca in 1803.  The Alliance with the House of Saud is in the early 1900s (I think your correct).
        So basically, the Muslims have had their REformation and the protestors are the problem, what they need is a friendly West and their own Enlightenment.

        Everybody talks about John Edwards' energy, intellect and charisma -- Bill Clinton

        by philgoblue on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 12:21:33 PM PDT

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