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  •  I think folks... (4+ / 0-)
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    are apparently not paying attention to the ads, speeches and statements that have been coming out.  Also, there is such a thing as pacing.  Obama is hitting harder and harder...not even had a debate yet.  

    Rather than continue to help Obama strategize, I'm hopefuly that you will leave your keyboard and go out and register voters, canvass and donate.

    "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

    by mayan on Mon Sep 15, 2008 at 12:30:26 PM PDT

    •  An excellent idea. Enough fucking hand-wringing. (3+ / 0-)
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      Get out the goddamn VOTE!

    •  Pacing Is An Interesting Point.... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...and perhaps Obama is saving this heavy artillery for the closing weeks, but wouldn't this be the perfect time for Social Security ads in light of the stock market crumbling?  Seems like a much better tack than the 43rd reminder of McCain's connection to lobbyists.

      As for me registering and canvassing voters, I have a job with a nonpartisan office that forbids me from being actively involved with partisan politics.

      •  not doubting - but curious (1+ / 0-)
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        what kind of job can forbid you from doing politics on your time away from work as a private citizen?  Is it a government position?  (And isn't registering voters non partisan?

        And the topic os SS seems that it would be ripe for a 527 to take up.

        McCain = "A whine, a swear word, and P.O.W."

        by ETinKC on Mon Sep 15, 2008 at 12:39:24 PM PDT

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        •  It's a Government Job.... (0+ / 0-)

          ....connected to the legislature of the state I live in. A coworker was fired four years ago for attending a Bush rally.  They take it seriously, and I have no interest in tempting termination.

          •  As a life-long executive public servant, (0+ / 0-)

            I can say with certainty that no non-appointed government employee was ever forbidden to express his/her political activities so long as the employee was doing so on his/her time. Did your co-worker take a couple of hours of vacation when attending the rally? If yes, that would be cause for some disciplinary action, usually mild unless the employee has a history of work violations. It would not mean dismissal.

            Was the rally held during non-work hours? If so, the employee would not be fired!

            As a matter of fact, it's illegal to restrict personal political activity conducted on non-work time.

            It is definitely inappropriate and cause for discipline if done on work time. However, the first action would not be dismissal. It would likely be a letter of reprimand, or, for a good employee with no negative history, the employee would be "counseled," that would be noted in the employee's record (not as bad as a letter of reprimand).

            So, kindly link to the statute or administrative code of your work environment that says that someone cannot participate in personal political activity and that violating such a work rule would result in dismissal. If it's a government position, the cause for dismissal would be codified and clearly spelled out. Otherwise, your co-worker has a very easy lawsuit to win.

            Proof please.

            You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. -- Sir Winston Churchill

            by bleeding heart on Mon Sep 15, 2008 at 01:01:06 PM PDT

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            •  I'm Not Sure of the Specifics.... (0+ / 0-)

              ...because it happened a year before I started.  It strikes me that you're correct that if contested, he could have salvaged his job.  I'm not inclined to take the risk after the precedent, however.

      •  Pacing (2+ / 0-)
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        He might be saving it for later in the season, but with events like this weekend and today, it seems to me that you have to use this opportunity to blast McCain on this weak point and tie him to all of the problems in the securities market before McCain paints himself and Palin as reformers who will come in and sweep out all the bad apples on Wall street. Attacking him now on this, especially tying it in with social security, will also get people off their Sara Palin high and bring the campaign back to the issues.

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