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    Perhaps no large group can ever avoid taking on characteristics of the Vicar of Bray.

    As a reader of Bion's Experiences in Groups, I see basic assumptions operating everywhere and really appreciate a true work group. I feel privileged to at least apprehend a bit of your ability to analyze what is happening and thoughts on where and how one can put one's shoulder to the wheel.

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      I am also an admirer of Bion, and the Tavistock theories around group organization in general.

      The men and women who psychologically investigated torture for the military and CIA in the 1950s-60s were especially interested in inducing psychological regression in their captives. The idea of basic assumptions a la Bion would not have been alien to them, if in fact they were not aware of them.

      Interestingly, the analysts were respected members of the MKULTRA project in the U.S., but in Britain and Canada, where they had their own programs investigating coercive interrogation and regression, the behavioral scientists involved, like William Sargant, eschewed the psychoanalytic way and considered themselves behaviorists, or even Pavlovian neurophysiologists.

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      by Valtin on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 07:36:51 PM PDT

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