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  •  Good question, I don't know. (1+ / 0-)
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    Mom in Maine

    Never give up! Never surrender!

    by oscarsmom on Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 11:33:18 AM PDT

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    •  I'll look it up and get back to ya! ;) nt (3+ / 0-)
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      •  Williams on Real Unemployment (3+ / 0-)
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        John Williams starts by discussing the headline economic data: "Real unemployment right now -- figured the way that the average person thinks of unemployment, meaning figured the way it was estimated back during the Great Depression -- is running about 12%. Real CPI right now is running at about 8%. And the real GDP probably is in contraction." (By "real," he means calculating the data the way they used to be calculated, not as inflation-adjusted.)

        He then explains how the employment data are compiled, noting that 5 million chronically unemployed people are not included in the statistics. In fact, there are seven or eight different employment statistics. One called U-3 is the official one. The broadest one, U-6, currently shows unemployment as running around 8.4%. As he explains, the one that's the most historically consistent is running around 12%.

        Bill Fleckenstein at MoneyCentral.

        Joe Biden: Get up! Al Gore: Pray, and use your feet! Harriet Tubman: Keep going!

        by JG in MD on Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 12:41:52 PM PDT

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        •  If you look at the U6 graphic that I posted ... (0+ / 0-)

          ...with this piece, you'll notice that it is running at 11% right now; it was 8.4% when Fleckenstein wrote his piece back in 2006.

          I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land. -- Mark Twain

          by Meteor Blades on Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 02:58:41 PM PDT

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          •  Oooops, I'm Sorry MB. (0+ / 0-)

            I wish I'd pay more attention when I'm blogging.

            I saw the U6 but it didn't register that I had... oh, never mind.

            —JG  8-[

            Joe Biden: Get up! Al Gore: Pray, and use your feet! Harriet Tubman: Keep going!

            by JG in MD on Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 05:37:36 PM PDT

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