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  •  It wouldn't be fake (0+ / 0-)

    If it was the law.  

    My point is:  if a law was passed converting existing, legally recognized marriages to civil unions, and stipulating that there was equal rights for civil unions going forward, then there is no fake or downgrade involved.

    We would have civil unions.  Period.

    If you wanted to go to a church and get a marriage certificate from that church - more power to you.  Just don't expect that to have any legal consequence.  

    •  If you want to be civilly unionized, go ahead. (1+ / 0-)
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      I'll stick with being married. Complete with the marriage certificate that came from the state where I live, not from a church.

    •  Churches don't issue marriage licenses. (0+ / 0-)

      The government does.  That's why, despite churches' desires to take it away from the government, marriage is a legal, civil entity that the government allows churches to officiate as a courtesy.

      And marriage is marriage; there's a significant, unalterable social weight that the word "marriage" contains.  If the government starts telling people, you can kind of sort of get married but you can't call it that, that is indeed fake.

      •  I disagree completely (0+ / 0-)

        Relegate marriage, with all its religious trappings, to the churches.  Strip away any legal attributes.

        Pass a law that civil unions, authorized solely by the government (no giving the power to marry to religious leaders) is the only recognized union.

        Over time, that will become the new paradigm and young people will be amazed to learn that at one time unions were solely for heterosexuals and we called them by the religious term marriages.

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