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  •  Still.... (1+ / 0-)
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    if she did ANYTHING to make it look like she was inflating her education credential, she deserves to be raked over the coals.

    What's prime target material for US is true also for our opponents.

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    by GayIthacan on Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 07:12:23 PM PDT

    •  Playing up the econ "degree" (3+ / 0-)
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      does indeed sound like a mistake, but more a campaign misdemeanor than a felony, which is what the time article implies.

      People make up degrees, and have been caught doing that. The article makes it sound like such a case, when really it is an entirely different thing, something that is pretty much a technicality.

      She got a degree in computer science with an economics emphasis, which is technically not an Economics degree, as Burner seems to have implied at times. But it is a degree in economics, in that it is about the economics aspects of computer science.  I think the Seattle Times is definitely guilty of sensationalism, and of pretty gross bias.

      And not only did I graduate from faya havahd, but even took a course with Harry Lewis!

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      by MarkC on Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 07:29:12 PM PDT

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      •  A Degree Either Exists or it Doesn't...... (1+ / 0-)
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        I completed my undergraduate degree from Ithaca College with enough credits for BOTH a B.A. in History AND a B.S. in Systems Design.

        Unfortunately, New York State law does NOT permit one to receive both a BA and a BS with the same 120 credits.  (One needs to take an additional year of classes to earn both).

        So I had to choose which I preferred.

        However, if I claimed to hold a degree in the field I did NOT select (even if I earned enough credits to have 'earned it), then I am guilty of prevarication. Or, in my case, since I know the rules, lying.

        And if I was caught claiming BOTH degrees, I should be punished. Severely. Since I am smart enough to know better.

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        by GayIthacan on Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 08:02:18 PM PDT

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        •  Majors and Minors and a 1/2 Million $ loan? (1+ / 0-)
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          I got a B.S. in NY state, too, from Union College. I majored in math and minored in computer science. So I have a B.S. in math and computer science. I don't have a B.S. in math and a B.S. in computer science. So the CS part of my degree (the minor) is the equivalent of the economics part of Darcy's degree. Her degree is partially in economics.

          What's curious about this is the statement she made, which this article is about, was in a debate, partially sponsored by the Seattle Times, that was 2 weeks ago. Why publish this now? If the statement upset someone, it should have been brought up 1.5 weeks ago. Sounds like desperation to me.

          And then what about the 1/2 million dollar "loan" Reichert is getting from the company managing his media buys? Now that's a real story!

        •  Seems to be hit or miss (0+ / 0-)

          I went to Johns Hopkins where I majored in economics and computer science.  Hopkins does not give out multiple degrees so I received a BS in Computer Science from the university at commencement acticities.  However I had an advisor in the economics department and fulfilled all the requirements for a BA in economics.  While Hopkins did not give me a piece of paper saying I have an economics degree, they fully accept that I have one (I believe it is noted on my official transcript, though I have never bothered to check).  If I had wanted to go to grad school for economics, it would not have been a problem and I feel perfectly comfortable saying that I have both a BS in CS and a BA in Econ.

          It also seems that this is completely irrelevant to Darcy Burner since she was a CS major with a concentration in economics as opposed to a true double major.  That issue seems to be with how she described that combination.

      •  the article does not make it sound like (0+ / 0-)

        she made up a degree:

        her academic transcripts show she took five economics courses, enough to earn an emphasis in economics within her computer science degree.
        Harry Lewis, a Harvard computer science professor and former dean of the school, confirmed that Burner did study economics at Harvard.

        "She doesn't have a degree in economics," he said. "It's a specialty within the computer science degree that she has."

    •  Rather than be ignorant about it, and make (2+ / 0-)
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      such a stupid remark, why not find out the facts, first?

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      by shpilk on Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 07:34:17 PM PDT

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    •  Did you read the links above? (0+ / 0-)

      Including the Seattle Times' own bio on Darcy?

      As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. - Justice William O. Douglas

      by occams hatchet on Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 08:20:04 PM PDT

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