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  •  It's not just the fringe... (13+ / 0-)

    It's the nightly news and other MSM, and most politicians. It's a big fad to take one of these studies that could sound ridiculous if you don't hear all the facts, and whine about how the government is wasting your money on it. Dan Abrams used to do it all the time in his "Why America Hates Washington" segments. I admit I liked Dan Abrams, but whenever he opened his mouth about science, he'd say something so dumb I'd have to throw my shoes at the TV, and he's not on the political fringe. He believes in evolution and global warming and would tear up anyone who didn't. He was just being a dumb lemming when it came to funding for studies. They all do it.

    •  Being intentionaly dumb in order to get (3+ / 0-)
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      laughs and ratings is worse than being truly ignorant. Unless you're truly ignorant and trying to inflict that on the rest of the country by running for high office. The big problem with Sarah Palin is that she doesn't seem to realize how profoundly ignorant she is. Or else she knows it and truly thinks that being inquisitive and informed is not important. She is about the scariest thing I've seen in this country in a long time.

      And remember... if you don't like the news, go out and make some of your own.
      - Scoop Nisker, the Last News Show

      by pixxer on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 09:10:12 AM PDT

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      •  There is a hierarchy of ignorance/knowledge (2+ / 0-)
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        It is 4 stages:

        Not knowing what you don't know. (Scary)

        Knowing what you don't know, (Ok, you have identified it)

        Learning what you don't know (Responsibility plus!)

        Mastering the knowledge and it's applications (Thoughtless competence)

        There are two attitudes important in the whole knowledge field.

        I don't care what I don't know. I know enough for me. I am not interested in learning new stuff. Accurately described as a lack of intellectual curiosity.

        Knowledge is power only if you know how to apply it. Understanding that involves practice. Figuring out if you are doing:

        Right thing for the right reason.
        (Problem, causes and solutions are all correct)
        Right thing for the wrong reason.
        (It works and you come away learning the wrong lesson for your success. Creates the next situation)
        Wrong thing for the right reason.
        (You have identified the problem but not what has created it. Most likely comparing it erroneously to a problem that this solution worked for previously.)
        Wrong thing for the wrong reason.
        (You can't find an effective solution if you misidentify the problem and it's sources.)

        One government study that I think is quite humorous in this discussion.

        It was done for sheep farmers to study the behavior of the animals to determine what would improve the impregnation and reproductive rates.

        Turns out, about 10% of male sheep prefer male sheep to females. So the farmers had to start identifying those animals and take them out of the stud group.

        Darn it, the GOP could not use this as a useless waste of government money.... Either sheep make choices about their sexuality, or (OMG, NO!) homosexuality is a naturally occuring variation in genetics across the species.

        Sometimes, even the most ignorant, knowledge resistent among them realize they can't win an argument by any other means than ignoring it.

        Too much sanity may be madness. The maddest of all is to see the world as it is and not as it should be. Don Quixote "Man of La Mancha"

        by Ginny in CO on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 02:49:31 PM PDT

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