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  •  Turnout decreases in other countries too (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm not a supporter of mandatory voting, but you have to admit that turnout is down in most industrialized countries. Two weeks ago, only 61.1% of Canadians voted in the federal election. Turnout rates are also down in France, the UK, etc.

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    by ClaudeB on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 07:42:08 AM PDT

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    •  I wonder why other than jury duty lists are (0+ / 0-)

      often complied from voter lists. Is that true in other countries? As I have been a member of the League of Women Voters for a long time and we run into this all the time.

      I would register to vote and I would love to vote but I do not want called up for jury duty.

      There is an aversion to jury duty in this country that I cannot figure out. Yes it is a hassle but most employers will either pay you for the day or if the wages are better for jury duty, you get those wages. Teachers in the summer get both that pay and jury pay ( my sister did and she was able to request serviing on a jury only during the summers due to being head coach of 2 sports during the school year )

      •  A lot of people (0+ / 0-)

        do NOT get paid when they're on jury duty, and if you have kids, YOU have to pay for day care. The pay is basically nothing - the last time I got called (this past summer) it was $10/day, and only if you actually have to show up, which you may not.

        So if you have an hourly job (say retail) and you can't tell your employer what days you'll be out (because you don't know until the night before), they won't schedule you - and you won't get paid. If you don't get called for jury duty that day, you don't get the piddly $10 they pay you either.

        Which means you're out a week's pay at least - if the jury duty obligation is longer than that, it's even worse.

        If it was just a day, most people would be OK. But it's RARELY a day, it's usually a week AT LEAST, and for some juries, it might be six weeks. Get a big trial, and you might be on that jury for a few MONTHS.

        Very few employers are going to pay you for that length of time if you're not there.

        •  my husband works retail and they paid him for the (0+ / 0-)

          day like it was a vacation day. Of course, he is a fulltime employee and it is Lowes. Lowes has great benefits and offers a good package of sick and vacation days that is generous.

        •  I was told by my employer that the law states the (0+ / 0-)

          employee must be given that time off and if they are not called in on particular day but still on call for jury duty, the employer has to pay them for that day if they are a fulltime employee.

          Maybe my boss does not know the law or he believed that to be true. Or maybe some states and companies are different. My husband works for Lowes and they said they would pay him for anyday he is on call for jury duty.

        •  then voter lists should not be used for jury duty (0+ / 0-)

          let them use tax return records or something else.

          As I do hate seeing so many people refusing to register to vote for fear of being called for jury duty. They believe this is how they get on the list. I am not sure that is all that is used by the courts.

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