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  •  We need that 60th seat. (0+ / 0-)

    Imagine if we got 59; Lieberman would have a fields day.

    •  Wishing for it won't make it happen (1+ / 0-)
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      And you do realize that most people counting to 60 include Lieberman in the count, meaning that we'd really need 61 (including Sanders). Plus, there are defections with nearly every vote, so even 60 doesn't mean as much as people think. Every extra seat helps, of course, but a truly safe number is more like 63-65, and we're not getting there this year. But 57-59 gives us enough seats to allow a few defections and pick up a few votes from the other side. It's a nice round number, but it's not essential.

      To the GOP, change means doing a 360.

      by kovie on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 04:01:45 PM PDT

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    •  Read Charlie Cook about the quest for 60 seats (1+ / 0-)
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      GOP's Horror Sequel Is Almost A Wrap

      Too much attention is placed on whether Democrats get to 60 seats, treating that number as if it were some arbitrary sign of control, a filibuster-proof Senate. However, this notion ignores the reality that filibusters are about specific issues, and whether there would be 60 votes to break a filibuster would depend on the issue. Is Connecticut's Joe Lieberman on board with Democrats, or not? It depends on the issue. The same could be asked of Nebraska's Ben Nelson and a half dozen or so returning Democratic moderates. What about some of the more moderate to conservative new Democrats coming in. Are they on board or not? What about the few remaining moderate to liberal Republican senators?

      •  I did read it (0+ / 0-)

        But I didn't really have to. Seemed kind of obvious to me. 60 sounds nice, but isn't really essential. 57-58 will do, and in some ways is even preferable, as it keeps Dems from getting too cocky and taking things for granted for '10. But if they play their cards right, they should exceed 60 in '10, which will also be target-rich.

        To the GOP, change means doing a 360.

        by kovie on Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 08:32:25 PM PDT

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