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View Diary: (update w/ video X2 + Darcy Burner) Prop 8: DEVASTATING internal memo from the LDS Church (453 comments)

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  •  yeah, seconded (3+ / 0-)
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    jethropalerobber, monkee, slksfca

    We already know they're funding this. I don't get the point of this diary.

    •  Shows they're doing more than funding (8+ / 0-)

      Funding is enough to call their IRS non-profit status into question. These memos placed in the right hands at the IRS would possibly end their ability to claim tax-free status and cause them to have to pay back taxes, penalties, and other excise taxes, enough to hurt them pretty bad financially and it would definitely end any credibility as a religious organization to the mainstream.

      So many impeachable offenses, so little time... -6.0 -5.33

      by Cali Techie on Mon Nov 03, 2008 at 02:13:23 PM PST

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      •  Why? (2+ / 0-)
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        itchyredness, monkee

        Why would this be the case?  Religious groups are always able to express opinions on policy matters.  From the temperance movement into the religious based civil rights movement of the 1960s to the religious opposition to the death penalty of Helen Prejean to the support of Prop 8, religious entities have always been able to express their support of specific policies.  When you come to an endorsement of candidates and parties, the line is drawn.  

        But thank you for your knee jerk reaction, that makes us liberals look just as bad as the talk radio right!

      •  Where are you getting that? (1+ / 0-)
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        The rules for churches are similar to the rules for standard charitable 501c3's -- can't support a specific piece of legislation or a specific individual candidate running for office, but a referendum or ballot initiative is different, and i haven't seen anyone prove that it's illegal.  kate kendell of NCLR has said in interviews that it's frustrating and in a gray area but probably legal.  and i don't like the tone of olasenor's comment above, but i certainly agree that other churches have led the good side in many of our nation's hardest-fought battles over social issues.

        by decafdyke on Mon Nov 03, 2008 at 07:22:13 PM PST

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        •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

          When I referenced policy, it was an inadequate reference to general principles or policy matters.

          I am sorry you don't like my tone. Obviously I am coming off too glibly.  

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