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  •  Venezuela (4.00)
    Remember, people: the GOP needs polls to show Bush up or even with Kerry to make their attempts to call into question a Kerry victory seem more legitimate.

    That was what happened with the Chavez recall earlier this year in Venezuela. Not long before the election was held, some bizarro polls came out showing that the opposition would win the referendum, despite the fact that most others predicted a Chavez win. When Chavez did win, by fairly large margins, the opposition cited that one poll and claimed fraud - only to be shot down by Jimmy Carter.

    The situation is slightly different here, in that more than just a few polls show a Bush lead or a tie. But the principle is the same. So let's get all over CBS and the NYT for spiking this.

    It's not just about the poll. It's about our democracy.

    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

    by eugene on Wed Oct 27, 2004 at 10:00:36 AM PDT

    •  Quick -- somebody get Jimmy Carter (none)
      at the ready for our side! (I know it's sad, but until we can demonstrate that we are capable of holding fair and honest elections, we may as well rechristen ourselves, The Banana Republic of America)

      "We're turning the corner . . . on Armageddon."

      by Doofus on Wed Oct 27, 2004 at 10:43:24 AM PDT

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      •  Carter (none)
        (Maybe you were kidding?) Jimmy Carter has (rightly) attained "respected elder statesman" status in the minds of many, but he's also a Democrat and has been publicly critical of the Bush Admin. I would trust him anyway, but I don't know how influencial he could be.

        Another reality-based voter for Kerry/Edwards

        by Bearpaw on Wed Oct 27, 2004 at 12:01:56 PM PDT

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        •  Of course it was a joke. (none)
          I voted for Carter in 1976.  My point simply is: with all of the Rethuglican fraud and voter intimidation going on, we're in as much need of "fair election observers" as are many so-called "Third World" nations.

          "We're turning the corner . . . on Armageddon."

          by Doofus on Wed Oct 27, 2004 at 12:33:13 PM PDT

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          •  According to you, jokes aren't allowed. (none)

            "IMHO, with all due respect to Tom Schaller (whose writing I generally admire), this is no time for glib playfulness."

            Not only right wingers are hypocrites, it seems.

            •  Wow, my own fact-checker! (none)
              The difference is that I'm not a published columnist who's widely read, but rather a lowly poster on a blog.  Your snarky reply is one of many I've been seeing on this site recently, and I think it's unfortunate.  Many, maybe most, of us here share the same beliefs, values and goals -- most notably, defeating George Bush.  So I think a better use of our time and energy is to stay focused on positive action and dialogue, and avoid sophomoric feuds and spats.  Okay?

              "We're turning the corner . . . on Armageddon."

              by Doofus on Thu Oct 28, 2004 at 05:53:45 AM PDT

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      •  Carter has already refused to certify (none)
        the election in Florida.  It's hard to keep up, I know.

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