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  •  your lack of concern (0+ / 0-)

    for the rights and feelings of other human beings is quite appalling.

    You "find it extremely offensive" that three women might want to marry. Or three men.  Or two and one, either way.  You would deny Muslims, or Mormons, or anyone who follows the examples in the Old Testament, or any of a number of Pagan beliefs the right to marry under the terms of their own religion.  

    I find that indistinguishable from the bigoted insistance that marriage can only be between a man and a woman.  It is also narrow minded bigotry to imagine that you have a right to tell people who and how many they may, or may not, love and marry.

    If three women love each other why shouldn't they be permitted to marry?

    •  You're a troll (1+ / 0-)
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      Your trying to use liberal philosophy to equate same-sex marriage and polygamy.  When you meet someone who can only fall in love with two or more other people then you'll have a case, until then quit denying gay Americans the right to marry a person they love.

      Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

      by Futuristic Dreamer on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 10:06:17 PM PST

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      •  let's see . . . (0+ / 0-)

        You can't come up with any unbigoted reason why three women shouldn't be able to marry, and that makes me a troll.

        Right.

        Maybe, just maybe, it's you who should quit denying gay Americans (and all Americans, for that matter) the right to marry the people they love.

        •  You're a troll coming on this blog to weaken the (1+ / 0-)
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          argument for gay marriage by associating it with polygamy.  What class of people's rights are denied by not allowing polygamy?  None.

          What class of people's rights are denied by not allowing same-sex marriage?  Gay & Lesbian people.  Give me one good reason why their rights should be tied to the rights of people who want to marry more than one other person?

          Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

          by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 07:00:52 AM PST

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          •  "What class of people's (0+ / 1-)
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            rights are denied by not allowing polygamy?"

            The "class" of all people.

            "Give me one good reason why their rights should be tied"

            Because the rights of all people should be equal.  "Equal rights" means equal rights.
            There should be no special rights just for the people you favor, who make the marriage choices you approve of.
             
            Why should three women who love each other not be permitted to marry?

            •  HRed for right wing talking points & homophobia (0+ / 0-)

              So you admit you think being gay is no different than being a polygamist?  That shit doesn't belong on Kos.

              Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

              by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 02:22:16 PM PST

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              •  your continued rating abuse (0+ / 0-)

                speaks volumes at to who the bigot is in this discussion.

                •  You're not having this discussion in good faith, (0+ / 0-)

                  so the HR is justified.  You're arguing that gay marriage = pologymy and that's actually an argument against gay marriage.

                  Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

                  by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 07:43:32 PM PST

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              •  Oh, an by the way . . . (0+ / 0-)

                Since I've already stated support for gay marriage (as a subset of support for all kinds of marriage among consenting adults) how on earth do you read "homophobia" into it?

                Why should three women who love each other not be permitted to marry?

                •  You don't understand that some people are only (0+ / 0-)

                  attracted to people of the same sex, which is the definition of being gay.  That's bigoted.

                  Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

                  by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 07:44:48 PM PST

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                  •  you haven't got a clue (1+ / 1-)
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                    what I "understand".  

                    Why do you hate lesbians?

                    Why should three women who love each other not be permitted to marry?

                    •  You don't know what a lesbian is (0+ / 0-)

                      A lesbian is a woman who is attracted to other women.  Most lesbians have one life partner, just like most straight people.

                      You seem to be confused, and believe that a lesbians requires two, not one partner(s).  That's a lie and a bigoted one.

                      Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

                      by Futuristic Dreamer on Wed Nov 12, 2008 at 08:40:01 AM PST

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                      •  not even wrong . . . (0+ / 0-)

                        A lesbian is a woman who is attracted to other women.  

                        Interesting that you use the plural "women" . . .

                         Most lesbians have one life partner, just like most straight people.

                        There is no evidence that single partner lifetime monagamy is any more common among lesbians than it is among straights (where it is not common at all).  Lesbians "hook up", just like everyone else.  Lesbians sometimes "live together" and "commit", just like everyone else.  And then they commonly "break up" (or divorce, if married), just like everyone else.  They have "affairs", just like everyone else (with or without the consent of their "partners", just like everyone else).  And sometimes they practice polyamory, sometimes including men (there's a "B" in LGBT, in case you hadn't noticed).

                        In the extended community (city) in which I live, and which I have observed for well over 40 years, I've seen it all.  The lifetime single partner is the rare exception, regardless gender.

                        You seem to be confused, and believe that a lesbians requires two, not one partner(s).  That's a lie . . .  

                        I suffer no such "confusion" and have said nothing to suggest that I do.  That lie is yours to own, not mine.

                        Noted also is your continued intellectual cowardice, and rating abuse.  But "hide" rating the question won't make it go away . . .

                        Why should three women who love each other not be permitted to marry?

                        •  The fact that 2 married people may not be (0+ / 0-)

                          together forever doesn't mean that 3 people would be.

                          Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

                          by Futuristic Dreamer on Fri Nov 14, 2008 at 05:48:29 PM PST

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            •  It is equal if everyone can marry 1 person of the (0+ / 0-)

              gender they're attracted to.  It's unequal for only straight people to be able to marry someone of the gender they're attracted to.

              Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

              by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 02:48:50 PM PST

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              •  by that "standard" (0+ / 0-)

                it is also "equal" if everyone can marry 1 person of the opposite gender.

                I don't agree . . . either with your version of "equality" or your inability to count past "1".

                •  No, because not everyone is attracted to people (0+ / 0-)

                  of the opposite gender.   title=  Why can't you get that through your head?

                  That's what this is all about.  It is a civil rights issue for people who aren't attracted to people of the opposite gender.

                  Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

                  by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 07:39:03 PM PST

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