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  •  WaPo gets it wrong again (11+ / 0-)

    in an article about the Bush appointees Obama will be stuck with.

    I don't know why Fred Hiatt doesn't just move the freakin' paper to neocon AEI headquarters and be done with it. It seems that AEI's Mr. Donnelly missed Obama shredding Petreaeus into itty-bitty pieces when Obama questioned him before the Senate Foreign relations committee. Petreaeus acted like a naughty little boy being called to task in the principal's office. Now WaPo is giving credence to the hogwash meme that Obama will have to be deferential to Petreaeus despite the fact that Obama has signaled at every opportunity that it is the military's duty to carry out the policies of the Commander in Chief, not vice-versa.

    Petraeus, who has wielded great influence after his success overseeing the troop "surge" in Iraq, will remain a pivotal figure well into the Obama administration. His appointment as chief of Central Command lasts for three years. If Mullen is reappointed in 2009, Obama can decide on the next chairman in 2011, and Petraeus is considered one of the most highly qualified officers for that job.

    "Petraeus will make every effort to avoid a confrontation. But he does have that independent credibility because he's been very successful, and because of the personal attacks by the left wing of the Democratic Party, where Obama came from, Obama will have to treat him very gingerly," said Thomas Donnelly, a defense expert at the American Enterprise Institute.

    Kula, thanks for Morning Edition. I'm especially excited that Obama has new and exciting plans for his website. I've been chomping at the bit to help get some progressive legislation passed.

    McCain says overturn Roe v. Wade.

    by peraspera on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 12:34:16 AM PST

    •  Conventional reporting on ALL things military (10+ / 0-)

      should change soon when the votes of the active military are finally published.

      Politico (in a so-so read), kind of hints at the type of numbers we are going to find, reflected in the veterans:

      Dems get new crop of military voters

      An interesting subtext to John McCain’s defeat last week is what it means for the future of the Republican Party with respect to veterans and military voters. With McCain facing a diminished role in the GOP, and Chuck Hagel retiring from the Senate, there are few prominent Republican leaders left with military bona fides. This is in stark contrast to the Democratic Party, which has seen the emergence of a new generation of veteran leaders.

      In the past two election cycles, Democrats have added ten new Democratic veterans to Congress. Last week, President-elect Barack Obama helped close the gap among military voters, winning 44 percent of veterans as opposed to John F. Kerry’s 41 percent in 2004.

      Maybe it is recognition that Limbaugh and many of the GOP younger leadership, is composed of chickenhawks, a fact we should really press when they mouth off with lies.

      The GOP’s ability to market itself as the "Party of the Military" grew in large part from schisms in the electorate arising during the Vietnam era. For a generation, Republicans exploited George McGovern’s 1972 campaign as a means to brand Democrats as unpatriotic and weak on national security – never mind the fact that McGovern flew 35 bombing missions over Europe during WWII and earned the Distinguished Flying Cross.

      It was during these formative years as a budding Republican operative that Karl Rove learned the tools of the trade. Ironically, Rove avoided serving in Vietnam so he could sharpen the political skills he would later use to brand Al Gore a fraud, Max Cleland a coward, and John Kerry a traitor. Never mind that Al Gore enlisted in the Army; Max Cleland left three limbs on the battlefield; and John Kerry fought his way to three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star.

      Did Nancy Reagan vote for Obama? 10-1 odds says she did!

      by Theghostofkarlafayetucker on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 01:05:08 AM PST

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    •  Got an e-mail from Salisbury, NC, about VA (6+ / 0-)

      hospital protests...wonder what is going on??  I've heard about the auto worker unions reaching out (that's the line about taking them coffee), but are we in for a bunch of VA hospital scandals?

      Somehow missed this one when it first came through.Viva los llamas.Sorry I missed your birthday.I did try to call.Never can get through.
      Anyway,Obama will be President,and those of us in NC are happy to be blue and finally rid of Liddy Dole.Bunch of people protesting VA cutbacks right down the road on Brenner Ave.If it wasn't for my union those guys wouldn't even have coffee.Sad.

      Did Nancy Reagan vote for Obama? 10-1 odds says she did!

      by Theghostofkarlafayetucker on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 01:14:22 AM PST

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      •  Clarification, my friend Bill must be taking coff (5+ / 0-)

        coffee to the protesters (somehow I was thinking they were prowling the halls of the hospital with styrofoam cups)...

        Salibury Post Nov 8: Protesters show their displeasure with plans to change VA

        Zane Robertson of Salisbury spent 12 years in the Navy, serving parts of four years in Vietnam in the late 1960s.

        During his stints there, he served aboard a Navy riverboat, hauling supplies to Marines and Army soldiers stationed inland near the pinnacle of the fighting.

        Robertson, now 62 and grandfather of four, is upset about changes proposed for the Hefner VA Medical Center.

        On Friday, he taped signs that his grandchildren made to the outside of his minivan.

        I see a flaw in the protest planning, the caption on the picture mentions Rolling Thunder, those allies of the pro-Iraq war counterprotests...

        The protesters are upset by the September announcement that the hospital is making a transition away from inpatient, emergency and surgical services to a long-term care and mental health facility for veterans.

        Some union leaders who represent VA workers have warned that the changes could result in hundreds of job losses, an accusation that Carolyn Adams, director of the VA, denies.

        Numerous veterans have expressed concerns about the changes, saying they'll soon be dumped in with the general population in seeking treatment at Rowan Regional and other private hospitals.

        "We're hoping to get the word out," Robertson said. "We want to let 'em know we mean business."

        He admitted Friday morning that turnout for the protest wasn't what he'd hoped. When Robertson applied with the Salisbury Police Department for a picket to protest, he expected a turnout of hundreds.

        I know this Salisbury VA has been doing a LOT of construction, but it is sounding like the staff, along with the veterans, are getting the shaft.

        Hogue said Adams, the VA director, "tries to sell the story she's told to sell." That story, Hogue said, is that changes in medical services for veterans will be minimal.

        But Hogue said that's not true. She said that if veterans are forced to go to Rowan Regional or other private hospitals for care, their out-of-pocket expenses will soar.

        "They don't give you free service over there," Hogue said, referring to Rowan Regional. "Only if it's an emergency will they admit you."

        She said if the VA stops treating veterans, Rowan Regional will be inundated with 14,000 new patients, a number it can't possibly handle.

        This privatizing veteran's care seems to be the biggest gripe, and the PSTD insight is spot on...

        "It's all about privatizing," Hogue said of efforts of government leaders to shift means of providing medical care to veterans. "Certain things don't need to be privatized."

        Hogue said VA doctors are familiar with treating veterans suffering with service-related ailments like post-traumatic stress disorder and exposure to Agent Orange.

        Doctors at private hospitals aren't going to be nearly so familiar with those problems, Hogue said.

        "They spent millions to renovate these buildings, now they're telling the employees to do something else," she said. "Surgeons don't learn other jobs. It tears my heart out that they would do this to us."

        The permit for Friday's protest restricted picketing to certain areas. Ambulatory picketers were in the grass area in front of the VA. Wheelchair-bound participants were across Brenner Avenue in front of John Calvin Presbyterian Church.

        All veterans and military organizations including the American Legion, VFW, DAV and Amvets were invited to participate along with any other citizens taking an interest in the event.

        Did Nancy Reagan vote for Obama? 10-1 odds says she did!

        by Theghostofkarlafayetucker on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 01:28:07 AM PST

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        •  another promise Obama better keep (2+ / 0-)

          and get rolling on pdq... veterans' services.  I don't hear anyone talking about who is on his list for this post, but the downsizing/shift like this at Salisbury better stop.  We need to ramp up, not curtail.  This is the one area I want to volunteer for the Obama administration.  I have no medical background and faint at the sight of blood, puke at the sound of gagging... well you get the picture.  BUT I can help out in administration duties, and I will.  

          ps: I've already been in touch with veterans groups in my area, so it's not like I'm just waiting around for Obama to tell me to do something.

          Yes We Did!
          I am droogie6655321!

          by Scubaval on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 04:28:01 AM PST

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          •  It appears to be a "bipartisan" opportunity (2+ / 0-)
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            where the progressives AND Rolling Thunder can rally round a common cause.

            In fact, it might be the very best place for a bit of unity, don't you think?

            That buddy of mine who sent the mail from Salis. helped bring the UAW to Freightliner, so it appears the unions are making contact with veterans, if only in the coffee support aspect to begin with.

            Did Nancy Reagan vote for Obama? 10-1 odds says she did!

            by Theghostofkarlafayetucker on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 04:36:59 AM PST

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    •  Commander in Chief can move whomever he (2+ / 0-)
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      wants wherever he wants.  Three year appointments don't mean a thing if CinC ain't happy with your performance.

      The election of Barack Obama as President of the United States puts an exclamation point on Democracy!

      by SnowItch on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 04:47:19 AM PST

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