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  •  What bothers me about these ads.... (5+ / 0-)

    ....and the SEIU ad about health care -- they insinuate that Obama won't do the things he's promised and needs to be pushed.  It's insulting, it's way too early for that kind of perception.  But it's what progressives do -- it's been happening all over dKos on cabinet picks that are nothing BUT rumors.  

    Newsflash:  not everything will get done right away.  It's childish to think it will.  However, I fully expect President Obama to lay out what will be accomplished first and the reasons for his priorities.  

    So these ads are dangerous, serve no purpose to "remind" Obama of Gitmo, health care, etc.  I think he remembers, thank you very much.  Let's get smarter about how to support a successful administration. Let's also remember we won this election because Obama in many cases avoided our not-so-sage advice and knew who he was and how he would accomplish.  He is a bigger man, with a bigger mandate going into his Presidency.  

    Can't we learn from his success?  

    •  I heartily disagree (1+ / 0-)
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      I see these campaigns not at reminders to Obama but to the general population at large.

      Imagine that from Nov 4 though February no one says a peep about Gitmo (except maybe us here in our orange cocoon.) Now, imagine Obama trying to keep those promises...the right will raise a hew and cry and will basically write the entire media narrative from scratch, however they wish. Obama will have a fight on his hands.

      Now, imagine the ACLU and moveon and other organizations get their messages out there and keep them out there to the general public between now and the time Obama starts making the changes we need. Who owns the narrative?? By then people will have seen the ads and campaigns and any noise from the right will be just that...noise.

      These campaigns you think are some kind of an affront to Obama are exactly the opposite. They are helping lay the groundwork and keeping control of the entire narrative so that when the time comes, resistance to Obama's actions will be minimal.

      •  Dude, (1+ / 0-)
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        There's a huge picture of Obama on the ACLU web-ad, just like in all those nasty campaign flyers, and it's addressed to "President-elect Obama".  The guy isn't even in office yet.  I never saw any of this "hold his feet to the fire" stuff for Shrub and his campaign promises, and the annoying thing is that Obama will probably be able to do these things without all this preemptive hoopla.

        And what we have already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

        by TehQuotient on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 06:25:55 AM PST

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        •  Guess I've been around media types for too long (0+ / 0-)

          To me it looks like they're making sure Obama is strongly identified with the remedy that will make the country and the world a better place.

          I don't see it as criticism...I see it as an issues campaign, done right. By the time late January comes around and Obama starts being able to act on this issue he will have the wind at his back because of this campaign and others.

          And let's face it...Obama is probably more popular than the ACLU. Using his face and name will do nothing but good for the ACLU in general (which the right likes to kick around.)

          It's doubtful that Obama or anyone in his campaign administration sees these ads as some kind of pre-emptive criticism...I'd bet they see them as part of the overall plan to get things done while maximizing popular support for the issues.

    •  What She Said. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      And what we have already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

      by TehQuotient on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 06:18:44 AM PST

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